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Old 07-06-2014, 04:35 AM   #1
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Question MATE desktop, randomly hanging at logout


Using MATE 1.9.0 on slackware 14.1 (built using the MSB slackbuilds)

However, i don't think it's related to slackware and is a general bug or problem within MATE. I recently had a linux mint box using the MATE desktop which experienced the same behaviour at times.

The problem is, sometimes, when logging out or shutting down via the "system" menu. The icons and gtk theme will seem to be unset, and the desktop takes anywhere from 20-40 seconds to finally switch back to the display manager, or proceed to shutdown the system.

I can't seem to find out what causes this. I've tested one thing, booting up the machine and running one instance of firefox for a few minutes, and then rebooting from the menu. Sometimes, the theme/icons will dissapear and it takes a while to finally shutdown, and other times the desktop will close immediately. It seems to be happening randomly.

Grabbed a screenshot after clicking shutdown, before it actually shutdown 30 seconds later.
http://i.imgur.com/GBwpYVs.png

One thing that might be relevant, for people who used to use GNOME 2.X, i actually remember this happening a few times to me on ubuntu 8.10. Could it be a strange bug inherited from GNOME?

Does anyone have any ideas how to stop this behaviour? It only becomes annoying when i wish to switch the user through gdm (having to wait almost a minute each time).

Thanks..

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Old 07-09-2014, 05:56 AM   #2
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I don't know nothing about MATE but you GNOME have released the 'GNOME Classic' what looks exactly like GNOME 2. You should try it. In my opinion, GNOME is more stable then the 'folked-out' MATE. I hope you understand what I mean, my English is not so good!
 
Old 07-09-2014, 06:02 AM   #3
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I have never gotten any MATE distro to operate without glitches involving shutdown or having a CPU core go ballistic at random intervals. I've use a lot of MATE distros from Buntu to PCLinuxOS to Debian and they all seemed to have little issues in these 2 areas. Just last week I tried the Mint 17 version and it had the random CPU core runaway issue. I finally gave up on MATE...

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Old 07-09-2014, 07:11 PM   #4
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I don't know nothing about MATE but you GNOME have released the 'GNOME Classic' what looks exactly like GNOME 2. You should try it. In my opinion, GNOME is more stable then the 'folked-out' MATE. I hope you understand what I mean, my English is not so good!
Ah, it's really not the same thing. The fallback mode in GNOME 3 is not anything i want to use, the entire 3.x has too many problems and lack of configuration for me. Aswell as the desktop apps that come with it, file manager is horrible etc. It seems like a step backwards... no idea what the GNOME devs are thinking. I don't trust them.


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I have never gotten any MATE distro to operate without glitches involving shutdown or having a CPU core go ballistic at random intervals. I've use a lot of MATE distros from Buntu to PCLinuxOS to Debian and they all seemed to have little issues in these 2 areas. Just last week I tried the Mint 17 version and it had the random CPU core runaway issue. I finally gave up on MATE...
It's working fine here on slackware during use. No bugs other than the occasional long-time-to-logout as i wrote above. Having said that, i did trial Mint 17 with the mate desktop and it was rather buggy at times... maybe that is MATE 1.8.

MATE 1.9 seems to be alot better in terms of stability.

I might have to try and get a terminal up while the log out bug happens, and see if anything is consuming my cpu.

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Old 07-09-2014, 09:47 PM   #5
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MATE and Gnome 3 (Fallback) are not comparable. Gnome 3 (fallback) is Gnome 3 without the Shell, it is still bloated (and I actually like Gnome 3). MATE is Gnome 2 with up to date technologies (pretty much forced on it by Debian who refused to accept it with old technologies that they had removed from their Stable repositories when Wheezy was introduced).

With regards to the logout issue it is something that is occurring in various degrees. I have 4 machines currently running MATE (2 Wheezy 1 Jessie 1 Slackware) and I have the issue with 2 (1 Wheezy and the Jessie). The Slackware system needs updating so I don't know if it will have it or not just yet.

There is talk that the issue is related to Systemd, I have never been convinced about that cause Systemd is not used in Wheezy and now it is happening in Slackware I'd suggest you report back to MATE's github page that it is happening in your Slackware system as well.

I'd also note that MATE 1.9 would be a testing version so you can expect issues, MATE 1.8 is the current stable.

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