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Old 03-13-2011, 04:23 PM   #31
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another digression from the original point of the thread


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So, why to develop yet another light Qt-based desktop environment ?
Hmm, either you're getting all philosophical on us with grandiose questions such as "why", or you're four years old, and you ask "why" to everything. IE, If there's KDE, why develop Gnome (or vice versa)? If there's Windows OS, why develop Linux OS? If there's a Linux kernel, why develop a BSD kernel? If there's a Ford automobile, why develop a General Motors automobile? If there's XFCE, why develop LXDE? If there are suitable fashions in existence, why develop new ones?

There's certainly some merit to some of the above questions. However, getting back to your original question, I believe I already provided an answer, and for your benefit, I shall do so again: "The more choice, the better." Perhaps you disagree, and wish to argue the merits of having less choice.
 
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Old 03-13-2011, 04:58 PM   #32
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Hmm, either you're getting all philosophical on us with grandiose questions such as "why", or you're four years old, and you ask "why" to everything. IE, If there's KDE, why develop Gnome (or vice versa)? If there's Windows OS, why develop Linux OS? If there's a Linux kernel, why develop a BSD kernel? If there's a Ford automobile, why develop a General Motors automobile? If there's XFCE, why develop LXDE? If there are suitable fashions in existence, why develop new ones?

There's certainly some merit to some of the above questions. However, getting back to your original question, I believe I already provided an answer, and for your benefit, I shall do so again: "The more choice, the better." Perhaps you disagree, and wish to argue the merits of having less choice.
No, I haven't seen a satisfactory answer. Developing a desktop environment (or anything serious for that matter) means "stepping on a number of (well known) rakes".

Developers of existing environments have already stepped on these rakes and came up with some approaches/architectures/solutions. It looks like the OP is eager to step on the same set of rakes again instead of carefully studying existing ones, then based on the studies making the environments more lightweight when/where possible, and then, finally, writing the application he wants.

So, to shortly summarize this - to me it feels like NIH syndrome attached to yet to be reinvented wheels. I.e. I do not see any serious analysis of particular problems to be solved and I do not see a development plan for solving those problems.
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Yes, GNOME was utter nonsense when it started - I read GNOME vs KDE development history, early in the development the GNOME developers even withdrew from a conference once they realized how much more advanced KDE was at that moment. Of course, GNOME quite evolved since, though I still prefer KDE, but build myself and use (both self-built and coming with the distro) a lot GNOME apps.
 
Old 03-13-2011, 07:14 PM   #33
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I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this reminds me that something I always wanted to try is just a simple panel written in Qt that supports applets. There are no satisfactory panels for me that don't depend on a desktop environment, not even ones written in GTK+. The main thing stopping me is that I can't figure out how to get Qt's plugin system to work, I asked everywhere with no or only partial results.
 
  


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