Gnome has become dependent upon Compiz
 

First off, I'm using Fedora 8 and Compiz Settings Manager. I no longer wanted to use compiz so that I could save my RAM for other things. When I turned off Compiz (via Desktop Effects and GL Desktop) and then logged back into Gnome, it was using Compiz again. When I used Desktop Effects in KDE to turn off Compiz and set it to Kwin, when I would log back in, Compiz would be set again. (Same thing with XFCE)

So I used pirut to uninstall all of the Compiz-related RPMs and then Gnome no longer worked until I reinstalled them. What I mean is that all my Gnome windows no longer had taskbars (is that the, typically blue, bar at the top with the max, min, close buttons?) KDE worked fine with these files uinstalled. (I didn't test XFCE)

How can I make my computer stop using Compiz without messing up Gnome?

Thanks!

Window decoration
 

Hi,

I have also been messing about with Compiz lately, and when I had the same problem you describe, it was due to the lack of a window decorator. Compiz uses Emerald, so you have to run "emerald --replace" to use it. That probably means that you now have to run "gtk-window-decorator --replace" to reverse the process when Emerald is gone. It is probably best to do it before you uninstall emerald, though..:)

You might also want to go through your gnome startup-scripts and session controls to make sure there are no entries there linking to Compiz or Emerald as well.

Running Compiz with Gentoo myself, so I can't help you with Fedora-specific stuff, sorry....

Thanks for the advice....do you know where said startup scripts may lie so I can search them for Compiz-specific stuff?

Thanks!

Gnome startups
 

Hmm......not sure about Fedora, but the files I edited to get it to start was:

/usr/bin/gnome-wm (Gnome WM specific settings, here I replaced gtk-wm with emerald)

Next I made a shell script to start with Gnome Session Manager upon start of Gnome.

But, like I said, I'm not sure about Fedora...

I'd check out the gnome-wm file, and search for "emerald", and exchange it with "gtk-window-decorator"

Backup your files, though...;)

Ok I found part of the problem. As I mentioned in http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-gnome-620461/
I had been having problems with Compiz starting up in KDE and XFCE even though I didn't want it to. Well, a file had been created in $HOME/.config/autostart/compiz-manager.desktop that was causing it to always autostart. I now have that part figured out although I don't have the Gnome thing completely figured out yet. I'll post here when I do in case this happens to others.

Folks,

if I'm getting you correctly, you don't want to use compiz anymore, right?

The window manager you'll want to use under gnome then is metacity. gtk-window-decorator is part of compiz while emerald is part of compiz-fusion. So in order to use the standard (or former standard ;)) window decorations in gnome start metacity.

You don't need to do so before uninstalling compiz btw, even it would be more convenient in a way. While gnome is running without window decorations, just run metacity and the standard deco will come up.