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Ok, So I have been using *nux for about 5 years as a desktop OS. And the frustration has always been relatively the same. the gripe as I am sure we all know is Flash Support... I'm currently running a 32 bit opensuse 11.2 flavour... on an Acer TravelMate with an i5 processor and 4gb of ram... so a quick enough machine one would think. I can do almost anything on this machine including running an apache server all the way down to a mysql server without much impact to performance.
What kills this machine... flash, not 10 open windows of streaming content... just one simple flash window; and it doesn't matter what its opened in, I have tried Firefox, Konqueror, and Chrome to no avail. I have read forums advising how to "untie" flash from the cpu and seen 0 performance improvement.
Now I am no expert in the topic of pointing fingers but I'm smart enough to know when something is broken.... The adverse effects of running flash on my system, well for starters my processor(s) spike to 100% usage, and the more concerning thing in my mind is that the cpu temperature actually gets to about 82 before the poor thing just turns itself off.
Now the only thing I am aware of, is that it is in fact flash causing this issue, and I have tried to troubleshoot this myself; to no avail. If I honestly fealt I could get help from elsewhere I would(which is why I ask you fine folks for any suggestions). But who else... I could call Acer and they would have me return the laptop due to the overheating issues, but most certainly would not assist in diagnosing or fixing the actual problem. I could contact Adobe, but good luck, they know its broken... and aren't doing much about it; thus tying most people back to some form of M$... really they should be getting a kickback from them for this fine form of blindness. And furthermore, if I did manage to talk to a real person, I can guarentee they would advise me it was a problem with my build or my distro...
so moving forward, here's what I know:
From top when I'm running flash, not using it, just letting it lie. I see:
2638 cthompso 20 0 357m 159m 23m R 34 6.9 12:17.35 plugin-containe
Which from the best I can tell is related to ulimits(don't know if its the hard or soft limits) but none the less:
the number of actual processes running for this are:
cthompson@linux-l9nc:~> pstree -p 2638
the below might be overkill but better over then under:
the files being accessed right now by the process:
I have an AMD Zacate netbook that can play HD flash, so I know you should be able to.
Does your system use switchable graphics? What is the output of "lshw -C video"
Is your system using sandy bridge graphics? If so, you should get better performance by upgrading to a newer kernel and xorg. Sandy bridge has been problematic. Especially on older kernels. Any reason why you haven't went for OpenSuse 12.1?
Flash is closed-source, so the ball is in Adobe's court to improve it.
Personally I get the best results by downloading the video and watching it from my hard drive with VLC; the difference in framerate and CPU usage is noticeable vs watching it in my browser with Flash.
+1 for that. If it is just for Youtube you can also use minitube, I was perfectly able to play Youtube videos with a 600MHz Celeron CPU with 256 MB RAM.
... on an Acer TravelMate with an i5 processor and 4gb of ram...
The adverse effects of running flash on my system, well for starters my processor(s) spike to 100% usage,
Just for a comparison, I could watch any Flash video on my laptop with Athlon QL-66 (dual-core 2.2GHz) and only come above 50% when it is HD content.
and the more concerning thing in my mind is that the cpu temperature actually gets to about 82 before the poor thing just turns itself off.
Even when running at 100% for a longer time your CPU shouldn't become so hot. There is definitely something wrong with the cooling system in that machine, I would return it after trying to clean the cooling system up.
Thank-You all for your kind responses I appreciate the feedback.
* Dual video system with an intel card and an nvidia 330m
* I do concur that the ball really is in adobe's court being closed source.
* Admittedly I am playing flash games, a lot different then playing flash embeded video's from youtube, but def good advise for downloading them and watching via vlc; I cannot get the codecs to work, but thats an issue for another time
* I am running 12.2 My apologies on the typo or confusion.
* I am starting to lean toward a problem with this computer specifically as well based on the heat and such. though I did make note of the kernels lack of stepping down for the i5's "Turbo" function, which is as suspected perpetually on.
I do find that Ubuntu handles the load better, but the heat is still an issue.
What is the output of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file? Just wondering. If your laptop is not using the Nvidia graphics, or is not switching to it properly, that would definitely cause a performance issue.
Hey Guys i think that with the uses of Microsoft windows, it's often been easy to add adobe flash player by setting up it quickly when you go to a site with adobe display enjoying on it. In Linux the set up of adobe flash player has been difficult until more recent distributions. adobe flash player is now simple to set up and utilization.Thanks a lot!!