[SOLVED] Easy to config alternative to openbox or fluxbox or jwm?
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Easy to config alternative to openbox or fluxbox or jwm?
Im looking for an minimal desktop that do have gui config and that is easier to config, openbox, jwm and fluxbox are too hard to config for me!
I already know all the mainstream De's but im tired of em... the only thing i need is something that is easy to use and that does contains wifi icon on the bar.
Any tips or alternatives? i dont want to mess up with files and terminal, maybe some config gui to setup bar and menu itens? or any alternative De that is easier to setup and also that light?
The only feature i need is dpi change and use compton or something with it to avoid tearing like i do usually make with kde and opengl3 setting....
what i dont want: Mate, lxqt, lxde, gnome, trinity, xfce, kde, cinamon, budgie, gnome flashback, lumina...
enlightenment was almost what i needed but i found it ugly, couldnt set up wifi icon and its kinda buggy for me...
maybe icewm do have any easy to use tool to config its menus and stuff? im totally lost i saw that there are lots of these " wm" over internet but i dont know why one is easier and contains all that i need to set up and feel confortable,...=X
Distro: that is going to be used to set up :> Lubuntu
Also you could use the RFKill switch which any notebook should have these days.
I have networkmanger hard masked on gentoo since it exits.
Those network scripts like those automounters always work differently. they are not relyable do not work as they should
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you mentioned any QT or GTK XY Based desctop environment available anyway
Quote: what i dont want: Mate, lxqt, lxde, gnome, trinity, xfce, kde, cinamon, budgie, gnome flashback, lumina...
the others i know of are also just based on qt or gtk. look similar work similar
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i3wm is hardcore. but very simple when you change your work behaviour. Quite faster in any regard. and simple config file.
I only adapt the size of the letters in browsers and libreoffice, anything else i keep as is
More for the 286 guys not for the windows 8, windows 10 user
Im looking for an minimal desktop that do have gui config and that is easier to config, openbox, jwm and fluxbox are too hard to config for me! i dont want to mess up with files and terminal, maybe some config gui to setup bar and menu itens? or any alternative De that is easier to setup and also that light?
what i dont want: Mate, lxqt, lxde, gnome, trinity, xfce, kde, cinamon, budgie, gnome flashback, lumina...
I don't think you're going to be lucky! Desktops have GUI configuration, window mangers use file editing. Personally, I find editing Icewm files a lot easier than using the Gnome or Mate configuration editors!
LXDE/LXQt is fine so long as you can do the configuration you need with the GUI tools provided, but they don't do everything. If you need to do more, its XML configuration files are a jungle just made to get lost in.
If you found Enlightenment buggy, you might like to try Moksha from Bodhi Linux. They had the same trouble with Enlightenment, so they forked it to create something more stable.
I don't think you're going to be lucky! Desktops have GUI configuration, window mangers use file editing. Personally, I find editing Icewm files a lot easier than using the Gnome or Mate configuration editors!
LXDE/LXQt is fine so long as you can do the configuration you need with the GUI tools provided, but they don't do everything. If you need to do more, its XML configuration files are a jungle just made to get lost in.
If you found Enlightenment buggy, you might like to try Moksha from Bodhi Linux. They had the same trouble with Enlightenment, so they forked it to create something more stable.
Oh nice, moksha looks an great idea!
will try it and post results here, nah editing these menus is a pain in the ass!!! I dont know why they dont do things simple.....=xxxxxxxxxxx
GTK or qt doesnt matter, i do usually prefer QT but i can try any envinronment just need to find something that suits my needs and the only one till now is KDE plasma but it's bloated as hell to use on the other low end computer i have...im testing on this one, measuring resources and usability and installing there...any other De's that i should try?
i3 is tilling, i dont like terminal much stuff, tech is here to make things easier not harder i wont lose time with these tilling stuff because i know that i will not like it...=(
Are there any other enlightenment similar desktops? trying moksha now but im without hope =XX
Also you could use the RFKill switch which any notebook should have these days.
I have networkmanger hard masked on gentoo since it exits.
Those network scripts like those automounters always work differently. they are not relyable do not work as they should
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you mentioned any QT or GTK XY Based desctop environment available anyway
Quote: what i dont want: Mate, lxqt, lxde, gnome, trinity, xfce, kde, cinamon, budgie, gnome flashback, lumina...
the others i know of are also just based on qt or gtk. look similar work similar
--
i3wm is hardcore. but very simple when you change your work behaviour. Quite faster in any regard. and simple config file.
I only adapt the size of the letters in browsers and libreoffice, anything else i keep as is
More for the 286 guys not for the windows 8, windows 10 user
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No problem i just want to try different ones so i can find something, wich ones i forgot on my list? it doesnt matters if its QT or GTK!
so => Razor-qt has been merged with the Qt port of LXDE, called "LXQt" => So you may try LXQT
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With all that SYSTEMD crap, gnome 3.0 crap, I was forced to use something else. KDe4 is unstable as hell as I tried it last time. I was as you, I asked what else is there which can be used.
I used kde 3 => gnome 2.0 => xfce => razor-qt => ended up with i3wm.
Those panels and icons are just annoying
Linux is the power of multiple desctops. I work with 2 screens with 10 virtual desctops, and sometimes i even use 8 tty when bored.
I am not a windows95 friend, on moving around windows which overlap each other to drag an drop something. That is like using a typewriter or a stonehammer and a chisel to write something.
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I prefer to have the hole screen for work.
Not as in recent Microsoft Word for example where you have a 4 fingers height wise panel, a one finger height panel in the bottom.
so => Razor-qt has been merged with the Qt port of LXDE, called "LXQt" => So you may try LXQT
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With all that SYSTEMD crap, gnome 3.0 crap, I was forced to use something else. KDe4 is unstable as hell as I tried it last time. I was as you, I asked what else is there which can be used.
I used kde 3 => gnome 2.0 => xfce => razor-qt => ended up with i3wm.
Those panels and icons are just annoying
Linux is the power of multiple desctops. I work with 2 screens with 10 virtual desctops, and sometimes i even use 8 tty when bored.
I am not a windows95 friend, on moving around windows which overlap each other to drag an drop something. That is like using a typewriter or a stonehammer and a chisel to write something.
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I prefer to have the hole screen for work.
Not as in recent Microsoft Word for example where you have a 4 fingers height wise panel, a one finger height panel in the bottom.
I have not used any windows over windows in years
My problem with i3wm is that its too minimal and that it does uses terminal and txt to config...=xx i dont like tiling wm....i do like icons and mouse but not that bad as the actual scenario were kde plasma and gnome are full bloated and heavy..... all other interfaces are on the same way!
Tried LXqt, could not like it, its light but lacks tearing prevention as the others...
Im thinking about using compiz as stand alone! have you ever tried it? looks very very promising!
The bad thing is that none of these projects looks alive now... Does anyone knows if there is a project to make easier to do it?i could use it with cairo dock and my life would be saved! also i would be able to prevent tearing =DDDD
Have you looked at LXDE? It's probably as light-weight as you can get without using a window manager, such as Fluxbox.
Actually, Fluxbox is fairly straightforward once you get the hang of it. Klaatu did an excellent tutorial on Fluxbox on his podcast, Bad Apples, now renamed to GNUWorldOrder. Check the archives; I think it was season 5, episode 3. Frankly, he taught me to understand Fluxbox.
I used compiz with gnome 2.0 and that is ages ago.
I like the graphical X server of 2 year old sysrescue-cd, no idea on what it is based on. That's quite simple for an icon and windows based desctop environment
@ i3wm
The config file is just plain text file ~/.i3/config
I run very minimalistic X-Server
The most annoying thing with gentoo linux and the x server are those many places on how to configure something. I have stripped it down to that only file named above. And you never know which file gets the priority over the other.
No bloat
I start xscreensaver which is better as anything else.
I set the keyboard language layout
I set every special "ACPI KEY" what it does, which action to invoke as a shell command
I stripped most of the predefined i3wm options, as I only use a subset
I do not have a desctop background, no icons on the desctop.
Just
"i3bar displays a bar at the bottom (or top) of your monitor(s) containing workspace switching buttons and a statusline generated by i3status(1) or similar. It is automatically invoked (and configured through) i3."
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For myself it's faster to use Windows key and D key, than type some letters and start the application.
goo => instantly suggests google-chrome
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What I saw over the years starting with gnome 3.0.
You can not go against the developers wishes. And when they wish for SYSTEMD, when they wish for fancy this or that, because some APPLE guy says it does not do this or that, it will be programmed.
Hole GNome, kde and systemd software is aimed for those apple and microsoft users. It is not aimed for those old 286 guys.
KDE3 was not bad.
Gnome 2.0 was not bad, But it is long gone
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I also had for years some customs to use some of this and some of that. I think you should do the same.
I used compiz with gnome 2.0 and that is ages ago.
I like the graphical X server of 2 year old sysrescue-cd, no idea on what it is based on. That's quite simple for an icon and windows based desctop environment
@ i3wm
The config file is just plain text file ~/.i3/config
I run very minimalistic X-Server
The most annoying thing with gentoo linux and the x server are those many places on how to configure something. I have stripped it down to that only file named above. And you never know which file gets the priority over the other.
No bloat
I start xscreensaver which is better as anything else.
I set the keyboard language layout
I set every special "ACPI KEY" what it does, which action to invoke as a shell command
I stripped most of the predefined i3wm options, as I only use a subset
I do not have a desctop background, no icons on the desctop.
Just
"i3bar displays a bar at the bottom (or top) of your monitor(s) containing workspace switching buttons and a statusline generated by i3status(1) or similar. It is automatically invoked (and configured through) i3."
--
For myself it's faster to use Windows key and D key, than type some letters and start the application.
goo => instantly suggests google-chrome
--
What I saw over the years starting with gnome 3.0.
You can not go against the developers wishes. And when they wish for SYSTEMD, when they wish for fancy this or that, because some APPLE guy says it does not do this or that, it will be programmed.
Hole GNome, kde and systemd software is aimed for those apple and microsoft users. It is not aimed for those old 286 guys.
KDE3 was not bad.
Gnome 2.0 was not bad, But it is long gone
--
I also had for years some customs to use some of this and some of that. I think you should do the same.
Yeah you re right!
At the end i installed antergos with openbox...im pretty happy with it and antergos did the config for me, i just edited some minor stuff!
it was good to test lots of De's...tried more than 12 ! hehee
Also the new lumina desktop version is Freaking good!
Hey build your own DE,
1: just use openbox for the window manager( you can install gui configuration tools such as obmenu and others)
2: grab a background setter such as feh(cli) or nitrogen(gui)
3: openbox has workspaces(scroll mmb), the menu(right-click), and click mmb for minimized/open apps. However most people prefer a taskbar, just install any you want, I like tint2
4: set these extra apps to auto-start(thru the openbox autostart script )
Hey build your own DE,
1: just use openbox for the window manager( you can install gui configuration tools such as obmenu and others)
2: grab a background setter such as feh(cli) or nitrogen(gui)
3: openbox has workspaces(scroll mmb), the menu(right-click), and click mmb for minimized/open apps. However most people prefer a taskbar, just install any you want, I like tint2
4: set these extra apps to auto-start(thru the openbox autostart script )
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