cannot type on wireless keyboard when starting up

qwertyjjj · 05-18-2012, 02:25 PM

I have a wireless usb keyboard that works well. However, everytim I turn the computer off and turn iton the next day, it is not picked up. I have to unplug the usb receiver and plug it back in and then it is recognised.

This seems to happen with the mouse as well.

Here's the strange thing. I plugged in a Live CD as I was trying something else and it picked up the keyboard and mouse immediately upon startup.
So, what could be the cause?
Should I upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04? Last time I upgraded, it caused a mess and I don#t really want to upgrade again until the next release is stable.

Isn#t there a way to write a script that just restarts the usb interfaces?

kareempharmacist · 05-18-2012, 05:22 PM

what is the brand of the wireless keyboard

qwertyjjj · 05-20-2012, 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareempharmacist

what is the brand of the wireless keyboard

Logitech Pro 2000

jefro · 05-20-2012, 11:09 AM

My guess is there might be a bios power state that is keeping power to the usb receiver. For some reason the device is not being reset. As you say a full power off to a new distro clears it or an unplug clears it. I'd look at the power states in bios. May not be able to change either.

I guess the OS could have some odd saved deal that on reboot keeps some old info. Might need to add in a script to pull hot plug.

Might plug in a wired keyboard and then try lsusb for info on when works and not.

qwertyjjj · 05-20-2012, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jefro

My guess is there might be a bios power state that is keeping power to the usb receiver. For some reason the device is not being reset. As you say a full power off to a new distro clears it or an unplug clears it. I'd look at the power states in bios. May not be able to change either.

I guess the OS could have some odd saved deal that on reboot keeps some old info. Might need to add in a script to pull hot plug.

Might plug in a wired keyboard and then try lsusb for info on when works and not.

it works when I plug it in, so what happens when I plug in a usb within linux? Can't I just run that as an autoexec script at startup?

Code:

j-media-centre@jmediacentre-A880G:~$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0755:2626 Aureal Semiconductor 
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 046d:c529 Logitech, Inc. diNovo Keyboard for notebooks
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
j-media-centre@jmediacentre-A880G:~$

dave_in_kanata · 05-24-2012, 07:34 PM

This sounds a lot like the "Logitech Unifying Receiver" issue I've recently encountered when upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04.

If you have an alternate keyboard, you can try the following:

sudo modprobe -r hid_logitech_dj
sudo modprobe hid_logitech_dj

My mouse is a Logitech M515 which also uses the Unifying Receiver. Maybe 60% of the time on startup it won't work. Unplugging and replugging in the receiver fixes the problem. Typing the above commands also seems to fix the probem, at least 95% of the time.

I don't think it BIOS related. My computer is triple boot, Windows7/10.04 with kernel 3.0.0-19/12.04 with kernel 3.2.0-24. The problem only manifests itself in 12.04.

It may be a race condition/timing related. Some people are having issues, others are not. Booting off the live cd is probably inherently slower and so it works.

jefro · 05-25-2012, 07:27 PM

"what happens when I plug in a usb within linux"

That is a bit of a long question. Most basic simple answer is that usb is a connection point, if the point has saved info then it is thrown away. The new point is questioned as to what it is and a driver if attempted. Then software is allowed to use it. USB is a plug and play or hotplug device that can be done and undone.

My thinking is that your system is not fully taking power off the usb on power down and that is why the reboot is not throwing away the info as it still hold a device pointer.

If you want to test then then do this. Power off, unplug ac from pc, press power button a few times or let site for 2 hours. Then boot. If it does work correctly then it is a power issue.