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Old 01-27-2008, 12:05 AM   #1
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can't install ANY Linux distro on PC build

Hi everyone, I'm new to the forums and Linux in general. I'm having a very odd problem when it comes to installing Linux distributions. I have tried to install RHEL 5, FC6, Ubuntu and OpenSUSE on a PC build. All of these distros hang before I can install any part of the OS. RHEL hangs immediately after choosing keyboard and language, Ubuntu causes my monitor to go blank after choosing to install from the disc, and FC6 and OpenSUSE refuse to do anything after keyboard/language selection. The installation media "fails" upon checking in my optical drives, but passes when I place the same media in my laptop drive. The same copy of RHEL 5 that hangs on my PC installed successfully on my laptop. This just screams hardware incompatibility, but I'd really like to hear any input or suggestions. Here's my system specs:

Motherboard: eVGA 680i SLI A1, P31 BIOS
CPU: QX6700 @ stock (2.66 GHz)
Memory: 4 GB Crucial Ballistix PC8500 (1066 MHz, 2.2 V)
Video Cards: 2 x 8800 Ultra (SLI)
Sound Card: X-Fi Elite Pro
Expansion 1: AVerTV Combo PCI-e TV Tuner
Expansion 2: D-Link DWA-556 Wireless-N Adapter
PSU: PC Power & Cooling 1kW-SR
HDD: SATA 3 x 750GB Seagate Barracuda in RAID 5, 2 x 750GB Barracudas non-RAID
Optical Drive 1: Sony DRU-830A DVD+/-RW
Optical Drive 2: Sony DVD-ROM reader
UPS: APC Back-UPS 1500 VA

Here, the boot drive is one of the non-RAID discs. I'd greatly appreciate any help. Thanks!
Old 01-27-2008, 12:44 AM   #2
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I have 2 suggestions.

1) d/load knoppix live cd....when you choose optical drive to boot loads into ram...but will show output to the monitor.
where it the last few lines....unless it fully which case tell us...we might then suggest a Debian style install distro. But you do not show the versions of ubuntu.

2) Another thing is the optical drive....some installs prefer one of those optical drives to be jumpered as master.

3) since you show raid sata and ide drivers and do not mention the optical as sata drives I assume they are both ide.

And I assume you are hardware savvy so know about static electricity in changing jumpers and cables.

the jumper technique will only cost a little time can i suggest

controller 1
master optical drive burner
slave one of the fish

controller 2
master other fish
slave other dvd reader
Old 01-27-2008, 08:45 AM   #3
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I would try to find a distro with the very latest kernel and try that as I'm guessing that something in you mb isn't yet supported in the kernel. The latest is 2.6.24, but that was released this past week. As an experiment you could try Mandriva Linux 2008.1 - it may not be stable but but the kernel is a 2.6.24 release canidate.
Old 01-27-2008, 05:18 PM   #4
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That is it, the kernel in those distros you are trying just isn't up to date enough for your hardware. I have a new build on an Intel P35 chipset, and I had to use the Sabayon LiveCD to install Gentoo with because it was the only one with an updated kernel. I think you will need at least a 2.6.21 series, but probably a 2.6.23+.

Hope that helps.
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Thanks, everyone. I will try Knoppix and report back after the attempted install. And to clarify, yes, the optical drives are both IDE.
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OK, Knoppix booted from the CD with kernel 2.6.19 just fine, even though the specific video card and monitor weren't recognized and generic drivers were used. Just for kicks I tried RHEL v5.1 x64, with the same hang after the request for installation number. Well, at least it recognized my video card this time

BTW, why would there be mb support problems even with newer distro releases? The 680i chipset has been out for well over a year, and I would think that RHEL 5.1 (which I think was released in November) would support it. Anyway, thanks so much for your help.
Old 01-28-2008, 10:45 AM   #7
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you could try using a backported Debian installer image that is designed to support some newer hardware..
Old 01-28-2008, 11:10 AM   #8
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Try debian and/or slackware...I once had a amd 700mhz system and those were the only two distros that would install and boot without issues. All others gave me hell and I couldn't install them.
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I've been doing a little research, and found out that the Aver TV tuner card has been giving people nightmares over at several Linux boards, since it is apparently not supported at all currently, and the feeling is that it probably won't be for some time. Could this be the source of my hardware issues?
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It is possible. You could try to remove it and try again. Perhaps Knoppix just ignores it.
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I once had a similar oddity on my desktop. In the end, I found the result to be quite bizarre (thanks to the folks on the Ubuntu IRC channel). Basically, distros on DVD's were loading and installing just fine, but Live CD's weren't. I swapped out the drive and everything worked perfectly. I could install Kubuntu on the machine, as well as some other distro's. If you have some spare parts and don't mind messing with your PC, I would suggest trying to swap it out.
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The weird thing is if I install a virtual distro using Parallels under XP, everything works fine. Unfortunately, due to a lack of work space and demands on my time, swapping hardware isn't an option. I still suspect a hardware issue with the TV tuner card. Is there any way to force a distro to ignore these devices when attempting an installation?
Old 02-13-2008, 04:25 PM   #13
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have you tried a custom-kernel Slackware with no support for anything that remembers your card? or simply Slackware without HAL?
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No I haven't, but I'll definitely give it a try. Thanks!
Old 02-15-2008, 04:29 AM   #15
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I assume your tv tuner card is plugged in PCI slot. If so then wou can try disabling that particular PCI slot from BIOS and rerun the installers. Also, use distributions which have at least 2.6.20 kernel. Anything below, will not recognize your hardware correctly.


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