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Old 10-27-2022, 11:27 AM   #1
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English ( Translated using Google Translator ) :

Speaking of aesthetics, companies like Novell, Canonical, Red Hat, and distros like Fedora, Ubuntu, and Linux Mint.

They do not solve the problem of unification, cohesion and visual integration between programs of the graphical interface.

We should look for those who can create a new library that takes care of drawing the windows and their theme, regardless of the desktop environment used.

Because as incredible as it may seem, this has not been solved since 2011. Nowadays in GNU/Linux things are done in:
QT6 / QT5 / QT4 / QT3
GTK4 / GTK3 / GTK2
ELF 0.17.3 / 0.2X.X

So you have to install:
qt6ct -> To change the visual theme of applications made in QT6
qt5ct -> To change the visual theme of applications made in QT5
qt4-config or qt-config -> To change the visual theme of applications made in QT4

To change the visual theme of QT3 you must edit simple text files that contain these settings.

dconf-editor -> To change GTK4 and GTK3 theme
gtk-chtheme -> To change the GTK2 theme

Apart from that, you must have themes that are visually similar, to half achieve anything, since there are very few unified themes, and by unified I mean that you have its parts made for QT (6/5/4/3) and GTK ( 4/3/2) apart from theme for window managers like « Metacity » / « Marco » / « Xfwm4 » / « Kwin »

Since a new user, not being able to accomplish this quickly and successfully, the only conclusion they will come to from their bad experience is that the system is neither complete nor polished if you can't quickly do something as simple as choosing a theme and This, as I said, maintains coherence and cohesion at an aesthetic level.

Apart from that today you can no longer modify the time from the graphical environment in some desktop environments such as Xfce. Forcing the user to use the terminal in general, unless you're using something like (Open)SuSE's YaST which allows you to do those modifications fully graphically.

Since for example at the moment I have no idea how to program, I have no idea how to make a library independent of the desktop environment to draw the windows. Which seems to me the most viable solution in view of the fact that Xorg is still used and little by little Wayland begins to replace it, and a new library for that that can work with both and/or anything else that appears by making it sufficiently portable and adaptable It seems to me the most feasible option for the long term.
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Hablando de lo estético, empresas como Novell, Cannonical, Red Hat, y distros como Fedora, Ubuntu y Linux Mint.

No resuelven el problema de la unificación, cohesión e integración visual entre programas de la interfaz gráfica.

Deberíamos buscar a quienes puedan crear una nueva librería que se encargue de dibujar las ventanas y su tema, independientemente del entorno de escritorio utilizado.

Por que por increíble que parezca, esto no ha sido solucionado desde el 2011. Hoy en día en GNU/Linux están cosas hechas en :
QT6 / QT5 / QT4 / QT3
GTK4 / GTK3 / GTK2
ELF 0.17.3 / 0.2X.X

Entonces tienes que instalar :
qt6ct -> Para cambiar el tema visual de las aplicaciones hechas en QT6
qt5ct -> Para cambiar el tema visual de las aplicaciones hechas en QT5
qt4-config ó qt-config -> Para cambiar el tema visual de las aplicaciones hechas en QT4

Para cambiar el tema visual de QT3 debes editar archivos de texto simple que contienen dicha configuración.

dconf-editor -> Para cambiar el tema GTK4 y GTK3
gtk-chtheme -> Para cambiar el tema de GTK2

Aparte de eso, debes tener temas que sean visualmente parecidos, para medio lograr algo, ya que hay muy pocos temas unificados, y con unificados me refiero a que tengas sus partes hechas para QT (6/5/4/3) y GTK (4/3/2) aparte de el tema para los gestores de ventanas como « Metacity » / « Marco » / « Xfwm4 » / « Kwin »

Ya que un usuario nuevo, al no poder lograr esto rápida y exitosamente, a la única conclusión que va a llegar mediante su mala experiencia es que el sistema no esta ni completo ni pulido si no puedes hacer rápidamente algo tan sencillo como elegir un tema y este como dije mantenga la coherencia y cohesión a nivel estético.

Aparte que hoy en día ya no puedes modificar la hora desde el entorno gráfico en algunos entornos de escritorio como Xfce. Obligando al usuario a utilizar la terminal en general, al menos que estés usando algo como el YaST de (Open)SuSE que te permite hacer esas modificaciones de forma totalmente gráfica.

Ya que por ejemplo de momento yo no tengo idea de como programar, no tengo idea de como hacer una librería independiente del entorno de escritorio para dibujar las ventanas. Lo cual me parece la solución mas viable en vista de que aun se utilizar Xorg y poco a poco Wayland empieza a reemplazarlo, y una nueva librería para eso que pueda funcionar con ambos y/o cualquier otra cosa que aparezca al hacerla suficientemente portable y adaptable, me parece la opción mas factible para el largo plazo.
 
Old 10-28-2022, 07:01 AM   #2
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