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Old 03-30-2011, 11:11 AM   #16
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Desktop Linux is being rolled out in offices and schools across the world. It suits their needs. If it doesn't suit those who just want to watch Youtube, play music, and do social networking, they can use Windows. Modern society has enough dumbing down and catering to the ignorant masses: keep your hands off my computer
 
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:13 AM   #17
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If you're a 'hardcore' Linux user, and you've got other 'developers' to sign your letter, you must realize that most of what's in your rant is incorrect, and easily refuted. Which is why you're obviously trolling.
Pretty much (though they never said 'hardcore linux user', they said 'linux fan'). Also, its funny seeing somebody say that they are a linux fan, but all the posts made here are from winXP

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WE ARE THE HARDCORE LINUX COMMUNITY: WE DECIDE, WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS BAD FOR AN USER.

ARROGANCEThis community is the most arrogant community i ever saw. They think, they can decide, what is good or what is bad for an user. Here is the password thing. How you dare to calim that everybody should be logged in with an user name with password? You think, becouse you is an IT professional, you can decide, how other peoples should
use they own computers? You have NO RIGHT to decide, how a user should use his own computer. You have the right to put this feature in: IF somebody want multi-login interface (checks this at the installer) then give him this secure interface. If not (not checks this box) then everyting just should load as root, even if you think, this
is unsecure. Becouse nobody cares, what do you think.
LOL. You know that this bit doesnt even work logically?

Since when has microsoft listened to anybody apart from themselves? They not only think they can decide what is good or bad for an end users, they push it on you as well. At least with (some) distros, you have the option of getting involved, thats simply not an option with microsoft.

If the 'password thing' is your best example, then really, go back to the drawing board....

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INCOMPATIBLITY, AND THE TOTAL LACK OF SUPPORT
In linux, there is much more compatibility problems beyond the library-problem also. Lets see an oldcomputer: A user got an old computer, and linux somehow does not boots on it. So the user just downloads some older linux. Oops, old linux does not even able to run the new linux applications, becouse the new applications depending on new libraries. But you cant install newer libraries, becouse these new libraries also needing newer libraries to be presend. So you maybee must get hundreds of new libraries, and chancing to newer version kill some necessary programs in your old linux, or the whole operating system. Your library installing chain maybee would be so long, that you even
must update your kernel: wich is does not runs on your computer, this is why you tryed the old version.
Sometimes, even your older hardwares are not supported any longer by the newer version of the operating system. The ultimate answer of the community: BUY A NEW COMPUTER. Sometimes, if you got a new computer, even booting the linux causes crash for some reason. The ultimate answer of the community: wait for new version, or BUY AN OLDER COMPUTER. For example, i got an old Seagate HDD. New kernels says block-not-found, errors, etc, and HDD can not even mounted. So i must use older kernel: wich is not supports my USB cable modem. Even if you got a new or an older computer, the compatibility of the linux miserable. And you are forced to use the newest operative system, becouse newest programs and services depending on it.
For example, if somebody is a windows user, simply can use Win7, Vista, XP, or sometimes even Win2000, almost all program will work on of them all, even if XP is now 10 year old. Under Linux, sometimes you get serious compatibility issues even when trying to use a 2-3 year old system.
Heh, come on, thats just trolling. I've never had any major problems getting linux to boot on any of the machines I've tried it on, some of which are 10 years old (as long as you dont do something silly like trying to get a KDE4.X distro working with 128MB of RAM)

Going back to an 'older' version is normally not much help at all. Some cases, yeah, it will help, but in most, not much if at all IMO. Then if you do go back, you are askign for other problems.

If anything, in a lot of cases I can see, the forums will actually say 'are you sure you want/need a new machine?' This is going to look halarious when XP reaches EOL, and microsoft will be falling over themselves on helplines, etc, saying 'get a new computer, your current computer wont run win7. I'd guess from your post that you really dont care about security, so you'll probably stay on the XP horse well after its become a hackfest, because thats 'your choice'.

Tried getting a SBlive to work with Widows7? Ohh, thats right, its major pain in the butt (thanks, creative). The same card will work just fine with any of teh brand new released linux distros (and BSD for that matter AFAIK). Tried getting a 10 year old video card working with windows7? Ohh, thats right, you need DX9, so your old video card is useless.

Lots of programs that run just fine with XP have issues with win7 (even with compatibility mode).

BTW, looking at the posts on the ubuntu forum by Geri, they got caught with a lame-duck SiS 671/672 video chip. Well, guess what, that wont run properly with win7 either..... So I guess your compatibility rant is just about dead.

As for he seagate, yeah, well, its probably toast. I've never got error msgs from a HDD that was healthy.

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Old 03-30-2011, 11:23 AM   #18
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Here is the password thing. How you dare to calim that everybody should be logged in with an user name with password? You think, becouse you is an IT professional, you can decide, how other peoples should use they own computers?
This hurt my head to even try and understand where you were coming from. Let me ask you this: If you bought a house, and it had locks on the doors, would you go postal on the builders because they decided that your house needed locks?
 
Old 03-30-2011, 11:23 AM   #19
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Since the majority thinks the OP is trolling, why not ignore him?

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Old 03-30-2011, 11:24 AM   #20
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Since the majority thinks the OP is trolling, why not ignore him?

Kind regards
You are speaking to a world that will gladly slow down and congest 20 miles of freeway to gawk at a car pulled over by a policeman.
 
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:27 AM   #21
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I dont think, that it will lower the value of my post that i have sent it from a windows machine. You think, your arguments are better becouse you have sent it from a linux pc?

I didnt sayd to clone it, but Microsoft Windows is a very good desktop operating system. So its good to learn from them. Firefox also learned from Internet Explorer a lot. I dont think, that would made firefox to be lesser. Its never bad to learn from the best.


,Heh, come on, thats just trolling. '
Heh, come on, you just cant say anything on it. Google is full of this problems. Just look the troubbleshot topics, and open your eyes.

I dont know why are you speaking from me at third person at the end of your post. You dont think i am worthy for speaking with you directly?


szboardstretcher:
I dont think that you lock your door every time, when you passing over the door. Maybee that building is not even your home: its your public entrance of your garden, and it not even supposed to be closed ever.

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Old 03-30-2011, 11:33 AM   #22
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Geri, Inlaid software developer, business man, game developer, driver developer, linux-fan
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cascade9:

lie. i never sayd i am linux fan. i sayd: i like linux. Nothing more.
I'm confused.
 
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:34 AM   #23
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sorry. true, i have writen that.

In reality, of course i just like linux and i love to see if it gets better (this is why i made this post, to make it better).

But i am not a ,,fan'' of it: if something is bad in it, i am able to see.

I like windows too :P
but i like linux better (=

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Old 03-30-2011, 11:44 AM   #24
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-computer should start and stop the most fastest way
I'm in no hurry.
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-computer should able to run the required applications without problems.
It does.
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-user should be able to easy download, install, delete any kind of documents, applications, images, etc...
I can.
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-Computer should be able to work together with all hardware
It does. Maybe I've been lucky.
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-User should be able to handle the computer witout professional IT knowledge
I'm an amateur.
 
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:44 AM   #25
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Please, come back when you'll become an adult.
Or you maybe can keep on using Windows 95.
If someone is wondering why I don't want to argument this the answer is simple: there are thousands of documents and posts and discussions everywhere that prove that what he's saying is almost wrong and nonsense.
I don't like to write words I know won't be read.

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Old 03-30-2011, 11:50 AM   #26
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brianL: yes, you can. 98% of the users cant, according to linux's share.
Slackyman: age is not a merit. I am not even sure wich one of ours is older, and i am not even care.

Linux is not your family member. Linux is an operative system. Who cant understand this, got issues.
 
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:52 AM   #27
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Slackyman: show me some!

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Old 03-30-2011, 12:17 PM   #28
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Slackyman: show me some!
Okay, congrats, you've convinced me that this was a trolling attempt.

The info (you asked for) is located somewhere within this or this thread.
 
Old 03-30-2011, 12:26 PM   #29
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so you cant
 
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:28 PM   #30
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age is not a merit.
Age doesn't matter when you're at least 25, but aren't senile yet. In all other cases age DOES matter.

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so you cant
FYI I'm not "Slackyman". You've been added to ignore list. Bye.

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