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Old 10-09-2010, 04:59 PM   #16
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This is EXACTLY the rationale behind MS market strategies and so many other software companies.

I disagree to the bone on this statement. In my opinion, this will either kill or severely injure Linux. I have been using Linux, for its performance, lightweight, the fact that it has always been capable of running on older & low end machines, and plain simple: its design. I love the way Linux distros are built, especially slackware, that I religiously use every day.

Now if I am indirectly forced to bloat it up with a DE that, IMO, contradicts directly the Linux & Slackware philosophies, what's the point? Might as well jump in Windows 7 right away.

The only thing I sincerely hope its that the KDE team are not solely trying to seduce Windows & mac users...

KISS: Keep it simple stupid! :
This has been one of slackware's core value since its creation. How can a DE that has tons of +/- useless features be part of an OS that promotes simplicity and stability as "paramount"?? The Plasma things in KDE4? Akonadi? All the visual effects...

As far as I know, simplicity means something is build or executed in a way that it is easy to understand or explain, and that has minimal steps or processed involved in performing a task.

Process/Activity: KDE old's resources files

Task: Deliver and store addresses and contact infos, emails, calendar, etc.
Result: It used low resources & it worked.

Process/Activity: Akonadi + X mysql processes + Mysql database + Akonadi resource manager
Task: Deliver and store addresses and contact infos, emails, calendar, etc.
Result: It uses tons of resources, create other problems & it doesn't work.

That's embracing the KISS principle? Again, why complicating things just to perform a simple task... 99% of linux users are home users, like me or anybody else in this forum. We dont need complicated processes to retrieve emails, store addresses and calendar items. We dont have companies and businesses that depends on our PIM management processes. We need something simple & straightforward because we have simple & straightforward needs.

Again, I am just expressing my opinions ... I believe in Linux, I believe in Slackware & I believe in KDE. I just wish and hope things will get straight in the near future.

If I offended or pissed anybody, I sincerely apologize.
I have used Slackware exclusively for about 15 years AND I fervently support, in full, the author's philosophy. I have repeatedly tried Gnome (when it was part of SW) & KDE. It is always a huge disappointment. Currently on v13.1, I have an extremely fast & 100% reliable machine on a 2.2GHz ThinkPad R61e. With FVWM, Vim, MC, & a bunch of compilers/interpreters, I can do anything I need. My entire system uses about less than 500MB of disk space. It never crashes & I have never had a 'virus'.
 
Old 10-10-2010, 02:47 AM   #17
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Thumbs up @lpallard

I fully agree with you - I use OpenSuSE - even though it is a "pet project" - still, if a distro is released, one would expect it to work. I have had this nonsense every time I upgrade - if it isn't OOffice that crashes in the middle of editing/writing a document, it is Kontact that can't find resources.
I understand the whole thing for instance that was around with MP3 files (but why would anyone really want to use that? The format sucks. And no - I don't need an iPod glued to my ear in order to do anything else) but a program that used to work fine, and now all of a sudden, that pisses me off.

One thing to be said for Windows: even though the software sucks, it works. If I compare the amount of problems I had between MS-Word and OOWriter, I have to say that Word/Excell usually gives me less problems. I don't understand this whole thing - I see the next release is scheduled for July 2011 - which would be OpenSuSE 11.4 - but 11.2 has not even got all the bugs straighted out.

I fear, that most Linux distros are pushing ahead with upgrades that the programmers think we need, and then releases half-arsed software, just to show that the Linux community as a whole is "quicker" with releases than MS.

I say bugger that - get one release, fix it properly, get everything to work (unlike RPM-packages that can't be installed because some or other dependency can't be satisfied) and release that. Couple it with an easy to use installation (that doesn't take 9 hours), and more people will use Linux.

Last edited by anon125; 10-10-2010 at 02:48 AM. Reason: Left out a word
 
Old 10-10-2010, 02:51 AM   #18
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Angry @rdsherman

Man - he wrote it just before you did - you really don't have to quote the whole post just in order to reply to it. IRRITATING IN THE EXTREME
 
  


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