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heffo_j 02-10-2014 12:47 AM

No updates for many days/weeks
 
Hi there,

Am I the only one experiencing this?

I haven't received any updates for quite a while now. I have been expecting to see the latest Firefox and Thunderbird updates and the usual other updates but nothing has happened.

Perhaps a reason has been given the to the community in Chinese, but it would be helpful to let the wider community know what is happening.

Anyone know what is going on?

Regards
Platypus

ericson007 02-10-2014 01:44 AM

Depending on your installation and packages, it could be possible. On a server I have sometimes quite a long time can go by before I have any updates.

It can also depend on the mirror you use. At times they are slow to sync and leave you without updates as well.

cascade9 02-10-2014 02:16 AM

As far as I can tell, Deepin 2013 is based on Ubuntu 13.04 'Raring Ringtail' which is only supported until January 2014.

The deepin updates were probably just ubuntu updates, since 13.04 is 'out of support' the deepin 2013 updates are dead as well.

heffo_j 02-10-2014 04:36 AM

Yes, I was wondering if the demise of Raring was a significant issue. I guess the developers have a plan for the future - at least I hope so. Thanks for your replies.

lihongwu 02-12-2014 02:07 AM

Sorry, but we were having our Chinese New Year holidays, so there were no updates for more than a week. As we are still using Ubuntu's repositories as part of our repositories (Firefox and Thunderbird are from Ubuntu's repositories), I'll discuss with the developers and see if they can provide newer versions of the concerned packages, like Firefox and Thunderbird.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9 (Post 5114791)

The deepin updates were probably just ubuntu updates, since 13.04 is 'out of support' the deepin 2013 updates are dead as well.

No, Deepin's updates are updates for its own desktop environment, system settings and applications. Linux Deepin 2013 is still maintained and supported.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heffo_j (Post 5114839)
I guess the developers have a plan for the future

Yes, Linux Deepin 2014 is being actively developed and there will be lots and lots of things worth looking forward to.

whitewhite 03-08-2014 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericson007 (Post 5114777)
Depending on your installation and packages, it could be possible. On a server I have sometimes quite a long time can go by before I have any updates.

It can also depend on the mirror you use. At times they are slow to sync and leave you without updates as well.

me too

evo2 03-13-2014 10:14 PM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by lihongwu (Post 5116026)
No, Deepin's updates are updates for its own desktop environment, system settings and applications. Linux Deepin 2013 is still maintained and supported.

Does this mean that you are independently backporting patches for serious security related bugs?

Eg
gnutls26: CVE-2014-0092 and CVE-2014-1959
libssh: CVE-2014-0017
libyaml-libyaml-perl: CVE-2013-6393
etc

Evo2.

lihongwu 03-14-2014 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo2 (Post 5134210)

Does this mean that you are independently backporting patches for serious security related bugs?

No, sorry. In fact we are a small team and are not doing this at the moment. For Linux Deepin 2013 We are mostly maintaining the desktop environment and applications we've developed.

evo2 03-14-2014 01:11 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by lihongwu (Post 5134264)
No, sorry. In fact we are a small team and are not doing this at the moment. For Linux Deepin 2013 We are mostly maintaining the desktop environment and applications we've developed.

I see. It's extremely unfortunate that your current release is based on a OS (Ubuntu 13.04) that had such a short support cycle. If you are unable to provide security support for your distribution I would suggest basing it on something that does. Eg use LTS versions of Ubuntu as your base. Or perhaps work to have your desktop environment and applications officially packaged in a distribution that does have enough man power to provide security updates.

Cheers,

Evo2.

lihongwu 03-14-2014 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evo2 (Post 5134268)
Hi,

I see. It's extremely unfortunate that your current release is based on a OS (Ubuntu 13.04) that had such a short support cycle. If you are unable to provide security support for your distribution I would suggest basing it on something that does. Eg use LTS versions of Ubuntu as your base. Or perhaps work to have your desktop environment and applications officially packaged in a distribution that does have enough man power to provide security updates.

Cheers,

Evo2.

Thanks for your suggestion. I'll keep it in mind and will make sure with the developers that security support will be taken care of for future releases at least in some way.

By the way, Linux Deepin 2014 will be probably based on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. I've seen recently they are migrating their work from Ubuntu 13.10, which they previously based it on, to the 14.04 version.


Cheers,
Hongwu


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