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Old 02-07-2023, 06:23 PM   #1
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Question Which linux certification for cybersecurity?


Hello gentlemen, I would appreciate your opinion regarding a Linux certifications. I need to go for a Linux certification and I am really unsure which to choose.
About me and my needs:
I have very basic Linux skills at best.
I am Cybersecurity Analyst in Incident Response.
already having CCNA, AWS Practicioner, AWS Security, Security+, ITIL.
I need to get better with operating systems (Windows also on my to do), to have a overview, no specific need in system administration, the idea is to keep working in cybersecurity.

Thank you for your time.
 
Old 02-08-2023, 02:11 AM   #2
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So you need to go for a certification? Why? From my side I would prefer practice and knowledge instead of certificates.
If you have very basic linux skills you ought to improve it, so go for a general linux admin or similar course.
 
Old 02-08-2023, 02:52 AM   #3
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If you have very basic linux skills you ought to improve it, so go for a general linux admin or similar course.
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MartinRA, could you explain why you feel certification is necessary? In general the presence of certificates on a resume is a red flag that skill, knowledge, and experience are missing and, worse, curiosity and the ability to self-teach are absent. That is an old observation which generally still holds true.

Additionally, what is your working definition of "cybersecuity"? Perhaps you are talking about something different. The general thought is that security an ongoing process involving establishing and maintaining the availability, integrity, and confidentiality of systems and their data and services. As such it is not an add-on but instead part of normal work and integrated from the very beginning of each task.
 
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Old 02-08-2023, 06:38 AM   #4
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I currently work in and have been working in cybersecurity for 14 years. Different capacities: analyst and now penetration tester on web applications. Never once has a prospective employer asked me anything other than a basic Linux question and certainly not pointed out that I did not have a Linux certification. I agree with other posters in that experience counts far more than a certification.

My .02.
 
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Old 02-08-2023, 01:22 PM   #5
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Thank you for your replies.

So why I need a certification:

We have to mandatory (by employer)obtain certain number of certifications every year, some are pushed by employer some can be choosed by us. I want to get certs in areas that I am weak, so OS in my case.

I have been asked in interviews about Linux and didnt know what to answer, in many cybersecurity jobs Linux/Windows are a requirement.

My opinion is if I study something I go for the certification, its like a badge of completion, it looks good on CV and can differentiate my CV in a pile, especially with recruiters that have no clue (more flashy CV the better). So experience of course counts, thats very clear but to maximise my chances to be invited to an interview counts equally much.

Regarding " In general the presence of certificates on a resume is a red flag that skill, knowledge, and experience are missing and, worse, curiosity and the ability to self-teach are absent" - rather bold statement, I am constantly self studying something, being curious and disciplined, this is certainly not my case or anybody I know. Thank you for your time responding, please save it in the future.

So these are my reasons, didnt expect that I would need to explain it, I hope its all clear now and would go back to my original question, which Linux certification should I go for as a cybersecurity analyst, no special server/devops environment administration needed. If specialised in something be it security.

Thank you for your time.
 
Old 02-08-2023, 02:09 PM   #6
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Thank you for your replies.
So why I need a certification: We have to mandatory (by employer)obtain certain number of certifications every year, some are pushed by employer some can be choosed by us. I want to get certs in areas that I am weak, so OS in my case. I have been asked in interviews about Linux and didnt know what to answer, in many cybersecurity jobs Linux/Windows are a requirement.

My opinion is if I study something I go for the certification, its like a badge of completion, it looks good on CV and can differentiate my CV in a pile, especially with recruiters that have no clue (more flashy CV the better). So experience of course counts, thats very clear but to maximise my chances to be invited to an interview counts equally much.
I don't understand how anyone can get a job in cybersecurity and not know Linux or Windows. That's the very purpose isn't it?? Security of servers/desktops? Without knowing the OS behind the scenes how to you respond to incidents, or give advice on how to secure things??

And if everyone has 'certs' on their resumes....how would you having one help yours stand out in a pile?
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Regarding " In general the presence of certificates on a resume is a red flag that skill, knowledge, and experience are missing and, worse, curiosity and the ability to self-teach are absent" - rather bold statement, I am constantly self studying something, being curious and disciplined, this is certainly not my case or anybody I know. Thank you for your time responding, please save it in the future.

So these are my reasons, didnt expect that I would need to explain it, I hope its all clear now and would go back to my original question, which Linux certification should I go for as a cybersecurity analyst, no special server/devops environment administration needed. If specialised in something be it security.
There is no Linux certification that is inherently 'better' than others, since there are some for Red Hat specifically, some for general Linux (with varying levels, like LPIC), etc. And there are loads for Windows as well.

You're asking people here for their opinions, so telling people to 'save it in the future' is fairly rude, especially to people who are trying to help you. I'm with the others; as a hiring manager, I put VERY little weight into 'certs'.
 
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Old 02-08-2023, 02:33 PM   #7
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Gentlemen please is you have the urge to post some toxic bs because your soul is in pain or you dont know any better, feel free, I will read it, but please also reply to what I was asking, let make it fair for both.

Simply reading things like:
"I don't understand how anyone can get a job in cybersecurity and not know Linux"... well that is exactly why I am spending my time here, trying to get an input from someone that does know...

"people who go for certs are a red flag...lack of knowledge, lack of curiosity and self teach"... this needs no comment

TBH I didnt thinked it will be this hard to get a simple response.

As a hiring manager you dont put weight on certs because the point of interview is also to check the knowledge/skills. As I mentioned the certs are eye pleasing for the recruiter that has no clue, hope this will stick this time.
 
Old 02-08-2023, 03:11 PM   #8
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Gentlemen please is you have the urge to post some toxic bs because your soul is in pain or you dont know any better, feel free, I will read it, but please also reply to what I was asking, let make it fair for both.
Grow up; you asked what people here thought, and you were told. You now come back a second time to insult people you're trying to get help from??? How does that work out for you normally?
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Simply reading things like: "I don't understand how anyone can get a job in cybersecurity and not know Linux"... well that is exactly why I am spending my time here, trying to get an input from someone that does know...
You said you ALREADY had a job in cybersecurity, didn't you?? And you said you don't know Linux or Windows.
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"people who go for certs are a red flag...lack of knowledge, lack of curiosity and self teach"... this needs no comment
It must; you apparently don't want to look up anything about what Linux certifications are available, and are asking us to do it for you, which would seem to indicate a lack of self-teaching and curiosity.
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TBH I didnt thinked it will be this hard to get a simple response. As a hiring manager you dont put weight on certs because the point of interview is also to check the knowledge/skills. As I mentioned the certs are eye pleasing for the recruiter that has no clue, hope this will stick this time.
You *GOT* responses, and you don't like them. You're getting told, point blank, that there isn't one that better than another. You claim your employer is telling you to get certifications....so go do it. Red Hat and LPIC were both told to you...either get them, or put "what are some linux certifications" into any search engine and find more of your liking. Since you claim to only get them for recruiters, why does it matter which one you get?? Get whatever you want. First hit for the search term given to you:
https://www.comptia.org/blog/best-ce...ions-for-linux

Again: certifications are meaningless to most. Hopefully that will 'stick' this time.
 
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Old 02-08-2023, 03:13 PM   #9
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Thank you for your replies.

So why I need a certification:

We have to mandatory (by employer)obtain certain number of certifications every year, some are pushed by employer some can be choosed by us. I want to get certs in areas that I am weak, so OS in my case.

I have been asked in interviews about Linux and didnt know what to answer, in many cybersecurity jobs Linux/Windows are a requirement.

My opinion is if I study something I go for the certification, its like a badge of completion, it looks good on CV and can differentiate my CV in a pile, especially with recruiters that have no clue (more flashy CV the better). So experience of course counts, thats very clear but to maximise my chances to be invited to an interview counts equally much.

Regarding " In general the presence of certificates on a resume is a red flag that skill, knowledge, and experience are missing and, worse, curiosity and the ability to self-teach are absent" - rather bold statement, I am constantly self studying something, being curious and disciplined, this is certainly not my case or anybody I know. Thank you for your time responding, please save it in the future.

So these are my reasons, didnt expect that I would need to explain it, I hope its all clear now and would go back to my original question, which Linux certification should I go for as a cybersecurity analyst, no special server/devops environment administration needed. If specialised in something be it security.

Thank you for your time.
I didn't mean to imply certifications are bad, knowledge is never bad. I think what many answers have meant is that they see people with a bunch of certifications but no knowledge. If you learn something from getting a certification, that's good then. I don't pay attention to them when reviewing a resume (CV?) because I want to know what the person I am picking for an interview knows, not what certifications they have, although some do indicate a certain level of discipline in terms of education, which is not a bad thing.
 
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Old 02-08-2023, 04:12 PM   #10
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Again, grow up. You claim to be a 'newbie'...who somehow has a job in Cybersecurity. And doesn't know anything about the operating systems he's been hired to secure. You asked what certifications to go for...you were handed a list and some suggestions, and flat-out told most people don't pay them much attention. If you don't like the answers you get, then don't ask the questions.

You claim to only want them to be 'flashy' on your resume, so again: why does it matter WHAT certification you get?? If you don't have the knowledge behind it, that piece of paper isn't going to give it to you. I'm sure your 'certs' will somehow show up against everyone elses and get you an interview, and if you somehow get the job are you going to be able to actually do it??
 
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Old 02-09-2023, 10:43 AM   #11
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Go and check out this lot:
https://www.offensive-security.com/
Hope this helps your quest.
 
Old 03-11-2023, 03:41 PM   #12
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Based on your current skills and needs, I would recommend pursuing a Linux certification that is focused on cybersecurity and penetration testing.
 
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One such certification is the CompTIA Linux+ certification, which covers essential skills for working with Linux systems, including command line skills, troubleshooting, and security. This certification also includes topics related to **SPAM LINK REMOVED**penetration testing, such as identifying and mitigating security threats, configuring network services, and implementing security controls.
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