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Old 05-17-2009, 05:10 PM   #46
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FWIW...

Jang's Book + Centos + VMWare + LOTS of Hours = RHCE

^ That's what worked for me.

I didn't take the class (just the test), and I passed. It's possible to pass the test without the class (just look at me ) but I would have taken it if I was able to afford it!

-C
Dude you make me confident on that part.... June 25th is coming my judgement test
 
Old 05-17-2009, 08:48 PM   #47
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Dude you make me confident on that part.... June 25th is coming my judgement test
Good Luck! Let us know how you do.

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Old 05-18-2009, 06:59 AM   #48
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Got the RHCT

Hey guys,

I just took the RHCE on May 15th in Minneapolis. I had no idea that they changed the format because I pretty much locked myself up and studied for the exam - not thinking that they would change it? Wow.

All I'll say is that I don't agree with what was changed.

I came up short on the engineer by 20% points. They hit me with some things that I thought was low priority so by the time I got around to it the noggin was quite full. I'll retake when the next major version comes out. I suppose the rhct is good considering 10 months ago I couldn't even list the contents of a linux directory!

Chad

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Old 05-18-2009, 01:20 PM   #49
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Wischad congratulations on you RHCT and sorry for the RHCE.


Why Red Hat website have not update the new requirements like:

Installation and Configuration

RHCTs must be able to:


# perform network OS installation
# modify the system bootloader
# implement software RAID at install-time and run-time

RHCE skills
Troubleshooting and System Maintenance


RHCEs must demonstrate the RHCT skills listed above, and should be able to:

* use the rescue environment provided by first installation CD
* diagnose and correct boot failures arising from bootloader, module, and filesystem errors

RHCEs must also be able to:


* configure hands-free installation using Kickstart
* implement logical volumes at install-time
 
Old 05-18-2009, 02:06 PM   #50
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Hey guys,

I just took the RHCE on May 15th in Minneapolis. I had no idea that they changed the format because I pretty much locked myself up and studied for the exam - not thinking that they would change it? Wow.

So, do not waste your time studying the important things like boot failure of any kind, how to install over a network, implementing custom partitioning at install time, etc. Anything to do with boot problems and installation is completely thrown out.

I came up short on the engineer by 20 points. They hit me with quite a bit of mail services and that was at the bottom of my study list so by the time I got around to it the noggin was quite full. I'll retake when the next major version comes out. I suppose the rhct is good considering 10 months ago I couldn't even list the contents of a linux directory!

Chad
Be careful about what you talk about...remember that NDA you signed? Red Hat has strict policies about talking about what's on the test.

You worked hard for the RHCT...don't get it taken away :-)

-C
 
Old 12-16-2009, 02:44 AM   #51
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Thumbs down Wanted to add

Apologies for re-opening this thread, but I have to say, I kind of hate the RHCE as well. I took it earlier this year sometime...What is most horrible is they're lack of any input on what you did wrong. I'm sorry, but for $800 dollars I want to have a clue what was wrong, hell, who's to say there's not something wrong with their scoring system, and that's why they don't allow test takers to know nothing more than a percentage? I mean, a generic breakdown would be perfect, something like:
Security: 10%
Email: 5%
etc.

With "Security" alone that covers..firewall, acls, hosts.deny, hosts.allow, etc. etc. It wouldn't need to be specific, but enough to know where my weaknesses are before heading back to drop another $800 on the table. You know how many lottery tickets I could have bought with that cash??? I could be rich right now....

I set up a test environment, used the well-known Michael Jang book(it is definitely not enough by itself for anyone thinking it is) as well as others, spent about a year tinkering around and rebuilding the OS from scratch countless times to a secure system. Luckily, I'm already a Linux admin, and I had a freebie when I took the RHCE exam, so in the end I only came out feeling disappointed as far as job necessity was concerned. Which leads me to my next point, it isn't needed. Most job postings looking for a Linux guru for their environment make no mention of RHCE preference. Sure, it's nice to have and may get you closer to landing the job, but the majority of companies will gladly take the experience of using Linux over the RHCE cert.

If I wanted obscurity and confusion about what I messed up, I'd go searching for well-documented information on Assembly Language programming or try taking a SAIR exam(god-awful, my opinion!). This shouldn't be expected from a company as well-known as Red Hat. I honestly don't understand why there hasn't been more of a push-back from test takers on this little issue. My only belief is that there's so few people actually attempting to take the exam(who ultimately pass it after the 2nd or 3rd attempt) when compared to the amount certified as an MCSE or Linux+ that it just is normal now to expect nothing but a YOU FAILED! sticker.
 
Old 12-16-2009, 01:23 PM   #52
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Hehe, "what you did wrong".

I took the EX333 exam on friday, last night I got results saying I got 0% on BOTH 3 hour sessions, and no more comment than that! They'd better sort that out soon...
 
Old 12-16-2009, 09:35 PM   #53
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It will be good if we can collectivly sue them,.. I think they should know how we feel.
 
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