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Old 04-25-2009, 12:12 PM   #1
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RHCE/RHCT Exam Format Change


It seems that they are changing the way they administer the RHCT/RHCE test.

https://www.redhat.com/certification/faq/

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Effective May 1, 2009, the RHCE exam will be a single section lasting 3.5 hours. Previously the exam consisted of two sections of 2.5 and 3.0 hours. The RHCT exam becomes a single section lasting 2.0 hours from its previous two section format lasting 1.0 hours and 2.0 hours respectively.

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Old 04-25-2009, 01:31 PM   #2
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Interesting, so now there IS a difference in the RHCT certification if you do it as part of the RHCE (2 hours) or by itself (3 hours). This then does change the logic of not bothering with just the RHCT if you're a bit dumb, as you've less chance or passing the RHCT within the RHCE as you have less time to do it. Iiiiiinteresting Mishta Bond.
 
Old 04-25-2009, 11:50 PM   #3
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Interesting, so now there IS a difference in the RHCT certification if you do it as part of the RHCE (2 hours) or by itself (3 hours). This then does change the logic of not bothering with just the RHCT if you're a bit dumb, as you've less chance or passing the RHCT within the RHCE as you have less time to do it. Iiiiiinteresting Mishta Bond.
So technically...they made it "harder"...

But I think it's a "good" change since I had about 2 hours to spare when I took the test...

-C

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Old 04-27-2009, 08:21 AM   #4
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Then we will not not need to install Linux anymore.
 
Old 04-27-2009, 10:17 AM   #5
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Then we will not not need to install Linux anymore.
Which is something that I agree with...

If you can pass the RHCE...I think it's safe to assume that you can install the OS

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Old 04-27-2009, 01:27 PM   #6
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My jaw fell to the ground when I saw it at

https://www.redhat.com/certification/faq/

Good thing I didn't register for the May 1 or else I would have gotten thrown off big time. I am all used to the old method which was 2.5 for trouleshoot and 3 for Installation.

I have a really good guess that Redhat will do a default or bare install. You have to know package management (RPM and YUM) to install the services such as Apache, Samba, etc... I can smell it like bacon.

Drats! You have to know you stuff well because you now have less time to fix your mistakes. I remember screwing up the RHCT portion of my RHCE exam then end up skipping it because I couldn't figure out what was wrong at that moment. Then I went back and tried something to fix the issue.

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Old 04-27-2009, 01:49 PM   #7
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I have a really good guess that Redhat will do a default or bare install. You have to know package management (RPM and YUM) to install the services such as Apache, Samba, etc... I can smell it like bacon.
You can always use pirut/pup/system-install-packages which has the same GUI front end as Anaconda...

But you should still know the "groupinstall" option with yum...

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Old 04-27-2009, 01:56 PM   #8
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if you get "used to" an exam format, I'd think you've taken it far too many times... ;-)
 
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^^^ Actually if I really did that, then I'd be broke. $800 is too expensive to be wasting like that ;-)

So I prefer to get used to it after experiencing it the first time, then focus my studies so I can turn it into a $1600 certficate. Hopefully... nothing more.

Thanks for the hint Custangro. I'll setup YUM since the dependency can be painful if I use RPM.
 
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You can always use pirut/pup/system-install-packages which has the same GUI front end as Anaconda...

But you should still know the "groupinstall" option with yum...

-C
Hmm, everything that's crap about linux gui utilities... those programs just scream "Special Needs"
 
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Hmm, everything that's crap about linux gui utilities... those programs just scream "Special Needs"
Hey! system-config-network is pretty good
 
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Talking Wow... Talk about shock.

The story:

There were so few people taking the test in Florida last year that they canceled the test.

Here we are, 1 year later, I am employed again, and I am ready and sitting for the test on May 15th in New York City.

I have to say that I am relieved. The installation portion of the test was always kind of dumb in my opinion.

So, now you don't get the RHCT consolation prize when you try for the RHCE. That... sucks. They should at least let us go for both at the same time.

But, oh well, I am going for the RHCE none the less. 3.5 hours should be plenty of time if you are prepared.

I can configure most of the services blindfolded. PAM is still a bit of a worry and I have panic attacks when I think about them deciding to do something evil like remove the man pages from everything and flat out delete a configuration file and ask you to recreate it from memory. However the spirit of their exams seems to be to do real world type testing and not memorization. (ie. Can you recreate an entire redundant DHCP server setup from scratch w/o man pages or config files?)

Anyway. Best of luck to my fellow candidates.

My only gripe is that the last time someone changed a test (Microsoft did this), the test was nearly impossible to pass for the 1st 6 months until Microsoft realized that asking for the "best" answer when they only tested the best answer on 100 people was kind of silly when there are 2 correct answers.

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Old 04-27-2009, 09:19 PM   #13
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The story:

There were so few people taking the test in Florida last year that they canceled the test.

Here we are, 1 year later, I am employed again, and I am ready and sitting for the test on May 15th in New York City.

I have to say that I am relieved. The installation portion of the test was always kind of dumb in my opinion.

So, now you don't get the RHCT consolation prize when you try for the RHCE. That... sucks. They should at least let us go for both at the same time.

But, oh well, I am going for the RHCE none the less. 3.5 hours should be plenty of time if you are prepared.

I can configure most of the services blindfolded. PAM is still a bit of a worry and I have panic attacks when I think about them deciding to do something evil like remove the man pages from everything and flat out delete a configuration file and ask you to recreate it from memory. However the spirit of their exams seems to be to do real world type testing and not memorization. (ie. Can you recreate an entire redundant DHCP server setup from scratch w/o man pages or config files?)

Anyway. Best of luck to my fellow candidates.

My only gripe is that the last time someone changed a test (Microsoft did this), the test was nearly impossible to pass for the 1st 6 months until Microsoft realized that asking for the "best" answer when they only tested the best answer on 100 people was kind of silly when there are 2 correct answers.
From the prep guide...
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Effective May 1, 2009, the RHCE exam is a single section lasting 3.5 hours. Previously, it had been two sections lasting a combined 5.5 hours. The content has be consolidated and reorganized into a single section in which time is used more efficiently. The RHCE exam consists of RHCT components (essentially the RHCT exam) plus RHCE-specific components. It is possible to earn RHCT in an RHCE exam if one has met the RHCT requirements but not the RHCE ones.
So I assume that you can still get the "RHCT consolation" if you pass the portions deemed RHCT level...but I think that's a question better suited for Red Hat...
 
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it never says anything about not getting an RHCT, just that there is less time allotted to that part of the exam, so in theory the RHCT IN the RHCE is "harder" than the normal RHCT due to less time.
 
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Lets way after May 1, 2009 to see the new test requirements.......................


Did LPIC test update have something to do with this change?

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