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Old 09-08-2010, 04:08 AM   #1
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Need help to pass RHCE exam


Hi ,

I am planing for RHCE(302) exam.Currently Im following the following book and do the practicals using physical pc's.

McGraw.Hill.RHCE.Red.Hat.Certified.Engineer.Linux.Study.Guide.Exam.RH302.5th.Edition.Jun.2007.chm

Then I refer the RH033 , RH133 , RH253 study guides.

Still I feel uncomfortable.so What else I can do in order to get through RHCE for the first time ? please guide me by providing e-book,
links to refer further.

your responses are highly

Thanks,
Harsha
 
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:19 AM   #2
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The RH253 study guide from Red Hat is spot on with regards to the topics you should know to complete the exam. As you move down each list item, ask yourself if you are comfortable with the knowledge you have for it. If so, move on. If not, study up. Linux is all about free documentation and you will have no trouble finding man pages and so on.

I would also say, that in all the practical exams I have taken, I have never felt sure of myself going in, but coming out I have always felt way over prepared.
 
Old 09-08-2010, 10:53 AM   #3
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Need help to pass RHCE exam

Hi

tnx very much for your response.I dont know the whether I got the latest study guide.Could you please be kind enough to provide me a link to download latest study guide.

tnx
 
Old 09-08-2010, 11:13 AM   #4
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Yup this one recommend by everyone for RHCE302

Moderator Note:
"McGraw.Hill.RHCE.Red.Hat.Certified.Engineer.Linux.Study.Guide.Exam.RH302.5th.Edition.Jun.2007.c hm" refers to the book named "RHCE Red Hat Certified Engineer Linux Study Guide (Exam RH302)" by Michael Jang Kindle, published by McGraw-Hill Osborne on June 21st 2007. This is a copyrighted, commercially sold paperback of which (I am sure) McGraw-Hill Osborne does not provide copies digitally. Note the Amazon Kindle ebook version of this paperback is sold commercially as well.

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Old 09-09-2010, 04:23 AM   #5
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i have already given the best link for RHCE study guides in this form. Use this link to prepare for RHCE it cover all RHCE practical topic with step by step guide and all these resources are free of cost.

http://www.computernetworkingnotes.c...ation/rhce.htm
 
Old 09-17-2010, 08:53 AM   #6
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Respected sir/madam,
I want to appear RHCE exam.How can i prepare for RHCE exam,i have no idea about RHCE exam.Kindly tell me how can i prepare for it.I know little bit about Linux.Can i prepare for it ?
So please advice me sir.

Thank u & Regards
Sujeet
 
Old 09-18-2010, 04:56 PM   #7
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this link has all the information you will need to know what you need to know: http://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/prep_guide/
 
Old 09-25-2010, 08:03 AM   #8
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Should seriously think if it is worth the risk.

I spent my own money on the combined RHCT/RHCE exam. I was confident and did not even consider attending their training courses. I thought I would get 100% for the easy RHCT part. All tasks easily done. All checked out before I moved to the RHCE part. I though I would get near 100% for the RHCT part, but they passed me on the RHCE part and failed me on the RHCT part at the border line near 70% which is incomprehensible. So they gave me nothing as you have to pass RHCT to get the RHCE. They sent me a note saying that they hoped I would sit for the exams again. No way! I think it's a cheat as far as I am concerned. I would not take RHCT/RHCE seriously. I am sure I did all the tasks, tested all the RHCT tasks properly. The RHCT tasks are not very hard. For me, it's a part I could never failed. It was totally incomprehensible. They did not let me know a thing about how they marked.

The bottom line is that you can complete ALL the tasks they asked for. All checked out in your own tests to match the user requirements they tell you. You walk out of the exam laughing to yourself that you completed all the tasks. But they still fail you and give no explanation. If I have the examiner in front of me with the results, I will challenge the person to prove that I did not meet the requirements of the tasks.

So be warned. Do not spend your own money on it like I did. They failed me at the border line of the easy RHCT part. I think this may have something to do with me not doing their classes rather than about my skills. I will never spend my own money again on it because they have such a dodgy marking scheme where you get no feedbacks and no appeal opportunities.

BTW, their own computer system failed to update change to the exam time so they sent me wrong time reminder for the exam. Then they sent me result on at late Saturday evening as well. All this does not tell me they know what they are doing in the training and cert department. The experience of the whole process feels like an insult to my intelligence.

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Old 09-26-2010, 05:59 PM   #9
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I can certainly hear your frustration in your words and can understand that it can be a tough pill to swallow when you spend your hard earned dollars on this type of exam. Presumably you had a reason to sit the exam, other than just mere curiosity. If that reason is still valid, I can assure you it is possible to pass each section with 100% well under the alloted time given as that is how my experience went. Although, waiting the 3 days to get my results was difficult :-)

Best of luck in your endeavors.
 
Old 09-27-2010, 05:59 PM   #10
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Well, they sent me the result within 48 hours at late Saturday evening. Did the guy mark the result over a beer in a cyber cafe? All I am saying is that if you don't go to their classes and do things the way they are used to (or the only ways they know of) you may fail even if you get 100% checked out in your own tests. And this is either because they are probably a bunch of nuts who disregard the fact that they are required to mark strictly to the requirements of the questions (not their own whimps) or they play the tough game too far. They also push their own classes, and it's in their interests to fail those who don't want to go to their classes. If they keep up the tough image by cheating their customers, it will come back to bite them. One day RedHat will be a dead brand. I am certainly switching to Debian and Ubuntu infavour of RedHat even though I know RedHat since their first ever version. I have used Linux before RedHat even came to existence. The RHCT component is easy. It's not something any decent Linux admin would fail! The only way you would fail is that they expect you to put the hat on the RedHat way (whatever that is). BTW, I pick this exam mainly by curiosity about its reputation for toughness. I like it tough because I like to do things under heavy pressure.

I would advise people who want to use their own money to think seriously about what you are entering into. I would advise people whose companies send them to tell their employers before taking the tests that this test is not something any one can count on a fair result. One girl on the day said to me that her employer paid for training and the test close to $4000. She was so afraid of what the employer would think if she failed. She came out with a worry face saying she did not complete it. But with any luck, as she went to the class, she would get things done the expected ways and probably sneaked through, at least at the RHCT level.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 06:28 AM   #11
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Hi,

I completely disagree with linuxdog. RedHat maintains its toughness and that's good because its not like other exams where you read dumps and pass the exam.I would say you need to understand Linux thoroughly,you should know how it works,you should Love Linux.RHCE is totally practical exam and I like this.Its too good.RHCE is for brave heart people.

I would suggests newbies in Linux if you are going for RHCE then practice a lot.Better get real time exposure in Market and when you feel very comfortable about Linux then only for RHCE.
 
Old 09-28-2010, 11:19 PM   #12
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Best of luck to those who do beleive in such a tiny company which is desperately trying to distinguish itself out of the huge linux crowd. I thought it is a decent company but I now know I was wrong, just another cowboy on the block. I started with Linux before came into existence. I am hardly a newbie in this game. I have handled about 5 flavours of UNIX over the last 20 years. The reality is that the RHCE exam only covers very basic things. But it has severe time limit and some tricks to stump people who do not have enough coverage of all the topics. Despite that I got all the tasks done and checked out to what I think very reasonable tests. If you don't go to their class, you don't do it the way they do the tasks. After all, they don't test you much on RedHat features. They test you on mainly public domain GNU packages which are common to all Linux flavours. They take liberty to fail you for not doing their ways (on things that are not theirs at the first place). That's not how professionals conduct business. That's the behaviour of geeks and tribalists. I am through with Red Hat. I think all RedHat is trying to do is to get people to pay for the classes. Who would want to go when the classes only touch on the basics?
 
Old 09-28-2010, 11:38 PM   #13
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Why do you hate RedHat,They don't do charity they do Business...

Most of the people around the world do very good even without any certification!!!

What's the point in cursing people?

Any ways that's what i think make you happy!!

Be happy!
 
Old 09-29-2010, 09:30 AM   #14
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That's not how professionals conduct business. That's the behaviour of geeks and tribalists. I am through with Red Hat. I think all RedHat is trying to do is to get people to pay for the classes. Who would want to go when the classes only touch on the basics?
To some or a great extent, I agree with you only on "Training Part" which is played by institutes. Last year in February I got admission for RHCE Training and the trainer, being a time-passer girl, would waste my time and would not care to pay attention to my training sessions. I would work in night shift and in morning go to the center for the training but all she would do was "Ask this or that guy. I am busy with something. Today I am preparing these guys for exams you do your practice. Can you teach me how to install VMWare and VirtualBox and Host and Guest OS things?" When I asked her how to see the "system date", her response was... "Find it out and let me know." When I asked her how to set skeleton directory for user account creation or how to configure that the index.html file I want to access is be named index.php or something else. How to do those things? She even didn't know how to change your local directory when you are FTPing. They didn't provide any training nor did they return the money. When I asked for "RHEL DVD" for the installation in the Lab, she said "I don't have it. You bring it on your own."

I didn't know how to reach Red Hat to complain against the institute as it failed to provide a certified faculty. The faculty herself was not Red Had certified that time.

I complained to the management about it all and got only false commitments. I wrote on a web site for consumer complaints. They had a meeting with me at the head office. They intimidated me and asked me to withdraw it. Finally I went to consumer court and now the court is going to issue the order.


O! I must call my advocate right now if the court has already done it now.

So, training centers in India are bagging (or begging for) money. They do everything to cheat you. There may be some genuine training institutes, too, but very difficult to come across.

We should not blame Red Hat or its services because training centers are not observing the right business-conduct. But Red Hat must let us have a way to reach it in case of grievances.


Note: Just to avoid any disputes, I am not disclosing the institute's name here. I joined it because I had got my corporate training at its head office in Noida. So I thought I would get the same quality at one of its branchs in Delhi. Several students across the country have been victims of the institute. There are many complaints against it. Even when you type the institute's name on google.com you will see on the first page links to complaints instead of the institute's services page.

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I am planing for RHCE(302) exam.
Go to redhat.com and take online tests. I did that in the morning today. Those tests are free of cost and are a good way to evaluate our knowledge and skills before taking the RHCE Exam.

They will also suggest you your proficiency level for different concepts.
 
  


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