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Old 03-25-2009, 04:21 PM   #1
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Have someone new to LINUX found a job after passing RHCE?


It will be a great motivation if:

Did someone new to LINUX found a job after passing RHCE?
 
Old 03-25-2009, 04:55 PM   #2
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I say it would depend on the employer.

I know that most employers do not specify that a person must have RHCE for Linux Administration positions. Most employers specify an experience criteria like 3 - 5 years in Linux Administration or something.

But if you have no where to start from (no Linux experience), a RHCE will help you depending if the employer will accept it. It will depend on how well you do during the interview.
 
Old 03-29-2009, 01:15 AM   #3
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i still rate attitude, character and experience above certification. i feel rhce comes in as a bonus and not the main criteria for employment. it is possible to get rhce simply by studying hard.
 
Old 03-29-2009, 02:53 AM   #4
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Personally I think it's quite unlikely a newcomer to Linux will pass RHCE.
Sure, you can study real hard, but you still lack the practical experience.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 02:38 AM   #5
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Personally I think it's quite unlikely a newcomer to Linux will pass RHCE.
Sure, you can study real hard, but you still lack the practical experience.
i have seen linux newbies who did a crash course in rhce and pass it. with the right tips and mentoring, it is possible.

i agree with you. practical experience is all that counts.
 
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In my experience, I have not seen any employer asking for RHCE from fresher Linux administrators. At the same time, it is an add-on for the experienced ones.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 07:59 AM   #7
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So for you, RHCE is a wasting of time for someone who ones to find a job as Linux Admin.

I disagree with all of you because for a person to get experience, he/she needs to work as Linux Admin. With RHCE, you will show the company that you have Linux knowledge and maybe a new RHCE knows more about a Linux than a regular Linux Admin.

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Old 03-30-2009, 08:49 AM   #8
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With RHCE, you will show the company that you have Linux knowledge and maybe a new RHCE knows more about a Linux than a regular Linux Admin.
I have yet to meet a certification cowboy (certified with no practical experience) who knew more than your average admin. 1 yr of experience doing administration or RHCE, I'll take the one year of experience. 1 yr of experience and RHCE vs 1 yr of experience, of course I'll take the RHCE candidate. It's an add-on to experience, not a replacement for experience. Even if a complete newbie somehow managed to pass a RHCE exam they're going to quickly lose the information since they have no way to tie it into other experiences to prevent the loss long term.
 
Old 03-30-2009, 10:46 AM   #9
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I have yet to meet a certification cowboy (certified with no practical experience) who knew more than your average admin. 1 yr of experience doing administration or RHCE, I'll take the one year of experience. 1 yr of experience and RHCE vs 1 yr of experience, of course I'll take the RHCE candidate. It's an add-on to experience, not a replacement for experience. Even if a complete newbie somehow managed to pass a RHCE exam they're going to quickly lose the information since they have no way to tie it into other experiences to prevent the loss long term.
I have to agree.

Certification must be a supplement to your experience and education; and, certification should never replace experience/education.

Certification should always be in addition to what you already have.

-C
 
Old 03-30-2009, 04:44 PM   #10
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So how do you get the experience by telling the company that you are willing to learn LINUX or that you have a LINUX Certification (RHCE) willing to get experience.

The company will tell you: " Yes, we will hire you to get the experience then get the certification" lol


You need to have something like RHCE to open doors. No company will hire a new Linux Admin without any Linux cert.

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Old 03-30-2009, 04:55 PM   #11
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Have someone new to LINUX found a job after passing RHCE?
"New to Linux" && "passing the RHCE" don't go together, IMO. If that occurs, something is wrong. (Unless by "new to Linux" you mean a HP-UX, BSD, or Solaris expert who quickly picked up Linux.)
 
Old 03-30-2009, 04:58 PM   #12
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The company will tell you: " Yes, we will hire you to get the experience then get the certification" lol
Believe it or not...that's basically what happened to me!

They hired me as a Jr. Sys Admin (All I had was my Associates and my Linux+)...

Then I got promoted to Sys Admin...then Sr. Sys Admin...then I got my RHCE...

It's funny how things turn out...

-C
 
Old 03-30-2009, 05:04 PM   #13
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I guess must Linux Admin resolved their problems in GOOGLE.COM or asking questions in forum like this one. So what is the big deal.........
 
Old 03-30-2009, 05:09 PM   #14
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I guess must Linux Admin resolved their problems in GOOGLE.COM or asking questions in forum like this one. So what is the big deal.........
You have no idea how true that is...

-C
 
Old 03-31-2009, 02:22 PM   #15
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So how do you get the experience by telling the company that you are willing to learn LINUX or that you have a LINUX Certification (RHCE) willing to get experience.

The company will tell you: " Yes, we will hire you to get the experience then get the certification" lol


You need to have something like RHCE to open doors. No company will hire a new Linux Admin without any Linux cert.
Generally by getting hired in as technical support and then get promoted to junior admin or just hired in as a junior admin, at least that's how every single system administrator I have ever known got started.

Personally, I wouldn't hire someone with an RHCE with no other credentials, I think it shows a bad methodology that is likely to be reflected in their work.
 
  


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