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Old 03-24-2015, 08:06 AM   #1
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Exclamation Can i pass RHCSA exam?


Hi, all. I was new user to linux two weeks ago, but now i try to figure out ACL and etc. Before 7.03.2015 i had no prior experience with linux. I want to attend at next RHCSA exam (approx. 20th of april). I have official training books from Red Hat (RH124) and "RHCSA training live sessions" video set by Pearson, inc. Can i pass RHCSA exam? I don't plan to attend in any training, only self-study. What do you think? Or do you offer any special method to prepare for exam faster except paid trainings? Would be better if answers are by exam-takers or who passed.

PS: I have 3 years of experience in programming, especially C, C# and some other PLs.

Thank you beforehand!

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Old 03-24-2015, 08:09 AM   #2
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PS: I have 3 years of experience in programming, especially C, C# and some other PLs.
Try to forget all that, it's only going to confuse you.
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Can i pass RHCSA with no prior experience?
Nobody with prior experience takes the exam.
 
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:13 AM   #3
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Nobody with prior experience takes the exam.
So you tell me, hard self-study of a month will not be helpful?
BTW, have you taken this exam? Thank you...
 
Old 03-24-2015, 08:15 AM   #4
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It'll get you through the exam
That will get you a ticket
That get's you through the door
Then you learn the job

No, I haven't taken the exam
I've just had to train a ton of people who did
 
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Old 03-24-2015, 08:24 AM   #5
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It'll get you through the exam
That will get you a ticket
That get's you through the door
Then you learn the job
I didn't get it =D
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No, I haven't taken the exam
I've just had to train a ton of people who did
Have you ever had student like me? If yes, did he pass?
 
Old 03-24-2015, 08:27 AM   #6
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I get them after the exam, though you seem a likely candidate.
You have enough interest in the platform to come on here and ask, that's very encouraging.
Most RHELmins only learn the bare minimum they need to keep their jobs, which is kind of discouraging to me.
Feeling optimistic about you, though.

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Old 03-24-2015, 08:42 AM   #7
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Feeling optimistic about you, though.
You gave me positive energy and i am now much more determined...
I am obliged to you...
 
Old 03-24-2015, 05:05 PM   #8
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Good, that was my intent.
It's a good area to work in, you can go as far as your interest, drive and intellect can take you.
Sometimes, a little further.....
 
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It's a good area to work in, you can go as far as your interest, drive and intellect can take you.
Sometimes, a little further.....
I am very determined to get this certificate, afterwards RHCSE, CCNA, CISSP. Maybe, RHCS Architect too.
I get angry with people who say: "I had 5 years sysadmin experience, and it is very difficult. I don't recommend newbies to take this exam (RHCSA)."
I think, there is nothing to be afraid of, nothing that you cannot do if you want.
Thank you for everything, you really helped me morally.
 
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Old 05-05-2015, 06:37 AM   #10
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Hi rzaaeeff,

Did you get the Exam?

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Old 05-05-2015, 07:04 PM   #11
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(Blink!)

Save your money, pal. You're running much too fast ... expecting to "achieve 'passing the test' " as a demonstration (sic ...) that you have somehow managed to 'achieve' (sic ...) the equivalent of years(!) of Actual Experience in a matter of ... what ... a few weeks?

This, to me, is a "poster-child" demonstration of the fallacy of "certifications."

Allow me to carefully explain. (Don't jump to any conclusions here ...)

School-systems all over the planet regularly produce qualified experts (with at least 12 years of experience ...) in: "passing tests."

Uh huh, they know the drill. "Stuff the information into your head, fill out the test-form, then dump the information out of your head on the way out of the examining room." Mission Accomplished, because there is one thing of which you can be quite sure: that, for the entire remaining duration of your earthly existence, you will never have to know one damn thing(!) about "13th Century English History!" (And, you are right.)

Trouble is, "certifications" are not "Tests about 13th Century English History."

They are supposed to be: "demonstrations that you actually(!) know how to swim . . . in a tankful of hungry Sharks!"

Why does this matter?

It matters because: the actual job consists of: making "a hundred ship-loads of blissful on-vacation cruise-ship passengers ... each of whom has paid thousands of dollars, a portion of which is your salary, utterly unaware that ... Sharks even exist!"

Certifications are a very valuable part of Continuing Professional Education. (I've actually contributed(!), over the years, to several of these curriculums.) But there is one thing ... one thing especially ... that they are not: certifications are not "A Golden Ticket!"

Certifications might well be a very good investment. (Most likely, they are a "good investment" that your employer will invest in you!) But, like all good investments, they are only as good as y-o-u make them.

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Old 05-07-2015, 03:41 PM   #12
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Hi, Iso718. I've passed RHCSA in 24th of April with score of 250. Thanks for asking.

@sundialsvcs, after passing exam, i started to think like you. Certificate is neither "Golden Ticket" nor silver one. Certificate is only half-exact way of showing your ability. Nothing can replace experience. You're absolutely right with your every single sentence. But, as a student i have to start from somewhere, one method is to dive into certification world to show you are capable of doing these. Then you get work, and experience comes along with it. Thank you for golden advice.
 
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I suggest that you ... "dive into the working world!"

Real companies do not have time to sit around "taking tests." They have a job to do, for (internal or external ...) customers who pay them to do it.

When you "get inside" any company ... "be humble." Don't try to show-off what you (think you) know: instead, show-off your willingness to learn. Do whatever "grunt work" you may get assigned, without complaining, and to the very best of your ability. Show up on-time, neatly dressed, ready to work, every day. (Be so punctual that "they can set their clocks by you.") These are the things that get noticed.

In due time, your employer will decide to send you to a professional-education training course. (On their nickel!) And, "lo and behold!", that course (fair warning! It's grueling!!) concludes with: "a certification."
 
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I think it depends upon the employer and may depend upon the country also. I know the jobs I have obtained here in the UK have been through HR departments or agencies being impressed enough by my CV to put my name forward. I don't have any certification but I'd be willing to bet that if the HR department or agency looking to fill a vacancy had a job for a Red Hat Linux support person (even a junior one) they'd see the Red Hat qualifications as a reason to keep a CV. The manager looking for the candidate may decide it's am empty certificate and file the CV in the bin or they may decide that you're put enough about using Linux at home to give you an interview in which you can impress them with your humbleness "The RHCE was just to prove to myself I could really, I realise it's not that important" and "I think I've learned more from playing with Slackware at home really".
There are also things like "Universal JobMatch" here in the UK where employers and those looking for work fill in their vacant positions and CVs and the system matches them up like a dating site. I should mention that this is a government initiative which employers are strongly urged to use.
I agree completely that if the first person to see your CV is the hiring manager the certification probably means nothing but it's just another word match for the HR drone, agency salesman or job match web site to go on.
I ought also to add that I'm talking about getting entry-level phone-monkey type work here I've no real experience of what goes on for more skilled positions.
 
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The bottom line, in any hiring (or other "sales") situation, is that you must connect with the person who has the "MAP = Money, Athority, and Pain." This is the person who needs to hire you, to relieve his Pain, and who has the authority to approve your being hired, and who has the money to pay you.

"HR Departments" generally don't fill that role. Their job is to keep the company's paperwork in order so that the company doesn't get sued gets sued less-often.

If you make a credible presentation of your interest, your sincerity, and your present qualifications whatever they are, you have a reasonable chance of getting attention. However, you should also understand that the hiring manager gets deluged with resumes. (Trust me on this. It's not fun.) Therefore, don't be like Charlie Brown (in Peanuts), sitting underneath the mailbox waiting for a valentine.
 
  


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