What is Lindows?

MatsFan · 03-11-2004, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rico16135
i believe i touched on several other things if you follow that link. And please refrain from name calling and/or putdowns. It just shows your character instead of getting your point across.

I wouldn't call voicing your concern to induce change trolling. The first step in change is talk. Which is what we are all trying to do.

Well, I guess you are right about the 'trolling' comment. Like I said in my post I wasn't pointing the finger at one person. Actually your link I didn't follow - so it wasn't your comments that I was refering to. I was just commenting on what I read on this thread and some others out there. I guess that was the thread that turned me off on here and I went to the next one. You very well could have made valid points - I will check the link. But none the less - It wasn't directed at you - Its just the vibe Im getting really. The last thing I want to do on my first post here is offend someone.

matsfan

Rico16135 · 03-11-2004, 06:50 PM

no one is offended.... everything's kewl. I'm just trying to make sure this doesn't get heated.

hw-tph · 03-23-2004, 05:09 AM

You're right, I know nothing about Lindows but what I have read. If someone is willing to put down the cash for me I'd love to give it a try. Honestly.

I'd like to ask Rico16135 something though, starting with a quote:

Quote:

"And please refrain from name calling and/or putdowns. It just shows your character instead of getting your point across."

Of course, you are right. But perhaps you shouldn't go pick on others "putting down" (more like having concerns, actually) a product when you belittle millions and millions of people in your signature:

Quote:

"WinXP is a great OS for the mindless peons of the world, while Linux is for those that choose to learn and grow, and drift far far away from the Microsoft Marketing Machine"

If you want to come across like a saint you better act like one and not just come up with the big words when *you* feel insulted.

Håkan

perry · 04-19-2004, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hw-tph
You may also want to read the reviews available on several Linux sites that put the spotlight not only on Lindows' usability but also on the security problems it has.

I mean, running as root as default? Haven't we learned anything from the security problems just about every Windows machine out there has?

Håkan

truth be known Lindows is now Linspire....

it seems billy got his way on this one....

little does he realize the mistakes made with Napster

look where Kazaa is today...

me thinks billy just made a big mistake

- perry

Rico16135 · 04-19-2004, 08:53 PM

hw-tph if you scroll up and look at what he said, it was a far cry from mindless peons. And second, I never directly called anyone that. Perhaps you should analyze the context before you open your fat mouth. And never did I claim to be a saint. But i NEVER called anyone a name or made a conversation personal. What I think is that you had to make that stupid comment in an attempt to belittle me. Perhaps you should focus on the substance of the discussion at hand instead of making stupid personal references. Or did they not teach you that in school.

Big Al · 04-20-2004, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Aman9090
And no distro SHOULD force you to make a normal user.

If you want to be stupid and not make a normal day-to-day user, then so be it. It's not the distro's fault.

In my opinion, LindowsOS is complete crap. I say this because you can get the same usability as something like Mandrake and RedHat (which both also suck a lot) and still NOT have to pay a dime. LindowsOS not only costs money but also charges you money for their software. And because of its usability, you don't get a choice on what WM you use (you are stuck using KDE, which is a slow and horribly, painfully inefficient WM), you get very slow performance due to all the "user friendliness" that their "custom" scripts running in the background allow, and its so insecure that even I, someone who NEVER hacks, could probably break it in 30 minutes.

I say skip any ideas at all having to do with LindowsOS. There are better, free, and better-performing alternatives out there that are made for the user friendly audience. Me, I am happy running Gentoo on my workstation

YOU might be very happy with Gentoo, but I can just imagine handing a Gentoo CD to my mom/GF/Aunt Tillie, along with 123 pages of install instructions. Also, RedHat isn't really that "user-friendly". I haven't tried Lindows^H^H^H^HSpire myself, so I don't know how it compares to SuSe or Mandrake, but I like the fact that they're targeting the Windows user.

Rico16135 · 04-20-2004, 02:45 PM

I think before people post an idea on an OS they should have at least tried a few to see what is out there

Geneius · 04-21-2004, 12:40 PM

Linspire is a great distro! If you want to fool around for hours installing libraries and dealing with dependencies or installing different window managers. I'd say what's been said is true. Linspire is not for you. Get Gentoo or Debian or some other distro. But for the rest of us who just want it to run and run smoothly, Linspire is a great option for a LINUX Desktop. I like it...

hw-tph · 04-29-2004, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rico16135
hw-tph if you scroll up and look at what he said, it was a far cry from mindless peons. And second, I never directly called anyone that.

I don't care whatever anyone else said, I was talking about what you said. You're not better because you belittle millions of people instead of just one.

Quote:

Perhaps you should analyze the context before you open your fat mouth.

I did, and I still got pretty annoyed by your responses.

Quote:

And never did I claim to be a saint. But i NEVER called anyone a name or made a conversation personal. What I think is that you had to make that stupid comment in an attempt to belittle me. Perhaps you should focus on the substance of the discussion at hand instead of making stupid personal references. Or did they not teach you that in school.

No, you never did claim you're a saint, but when getting some response that didn't fit your personal preferences you acted like you were one - still with that pretty offensive sig going on.

And no, I didn't bring it up to belittle you. I did it to focus on an issue: You feel insulted when somebody doesn't share your view on something (and a technical thing ferchrissake!), and still at the same time you feel confident enough to belittle all those millions of "mindless peons" that you clearly feel you are superior to.

I did focus on the discussion - as it evolved. But clearly you don't, and that's why I have to type this.

What I learnt in school? Oh, that's too low for me to touch...or is it? Don't get me started on that.

And as I said, if someone is willing to buy me a copy of Lindows/Linspire I would be very happy to try it and even write a thorough review of it.

Håkan

Rico16135 · 04-30-2004, 02:25 AM

Quote:

I don't care whatever anyone else said, I was talking about what you said. You're not better because you belittle millions of people instead of just one.

I see you're still focusing on me, instead of the discussion.

Quote:

I did, and I still got pretty annoyed by your responses.

Then why do you keep responding?

Quote:

And no, I didn't bring it up to belittle you. I did it to focus on an issue: You feel insulted when somebody doesn't share your view on something (and a technical thing ferchrissake!), and still at the same time you feel confident enough to belittle all those millions of "mindless peons" that you clearly feel you are superior to.

Uh, the issue you're refering to is pointless. That is not what this forum is for, nor is that what the issue was which started this thread. But for your amusement:

I do not feel insulted when someone disagrees with me. Quite the contrary. I love a mature, intellectual discussion. You're analysis of my quote is wrong. I feel confident enough in the Linux/Unix community to form the assumption that this community has more of a zest for knowledge. When I say, "... mindless peons ...", ( I never said millions btw) I meant that in some ways they are a slave to their OS. They have no idea what is going on behind the scenes and they are just happy that it "works".

So there you have it. My advice would be to focus on more pertinent issues instead of loitering around this one. If you have a problem with me, too bad. No one cares, and this isn't the reason for this forum. Any further replies from you will go unaswered, I don't want this forum tainted by useless bickering. And as to you wanting someone to give you money to try Lindows/Linspire, I would advise you to go download a free version off bittorent or by some other free download means. I do believe they officially released it at some point. My roomate got it that way, and from what he says it was official. I can't be sure though. I don't know if you could write an unbiased review, but stranger things have happened.

pepsi · 04-30-2004, 11:28 PM

lindows is just a os of opportunity, it is based on the free linux kernel using free software to keep the price of it below 50$, if the windows kernel was freely distributed i bet you lindows would be based on it. The os may be linux, but it was made as a cheap alternitive to windows for proof, lindows is used in the boxes wallmart sells over the net

A.moniz · 05-03-2004, 01:34 AM

That doesn't really prove anything. Well apart from it's profitable, I don't think it's immoral. they provide a service the OSS community refuse to provide - ease of use. Although perhaps on a different note, let them charge as much as they want, it might help to change the OSS communities mentality.

kartik_mistry · 05-13-2004, 03:15 PM

I got Lindows 4.5 from my friend and it looks great
he also give me 15 days subscription of CNR !!
so , my Desktop os changed whole Experience !!!!

Geneius · 05-13-2004, 03:25 PM

Yeah it's awesome! I can't wait for LOS 5.0. I'm sure it's going to be the best.

stunter · 05-14-2004, 02:53 PM

I tired Lindows about a year ago. Hung with it for about a month. It's OK, I suppose. Like anything else, it either meets you needs or it doesn't. It didn't meet mine so I ended up replacing it. But that's no comment on Lindows/Linspire.

The reason I tried Linux in the first place was I want to know what's going on with the system, have the ability to change what I want changed and fix things that I want fixed. Windows is designed to keep you from doing that. Not a problem. Most people out there don't want to know what a computer is doing. They just want it to work---like their car or their stove. Surf the web, collect their email, write a letter and they're happy. And Windows does that (mostly anyway). I see Lindows/Linspire in the same light. It's easy to operate, but tends to limit your control. And that's great for many users. Just wasn't what I was looking for. Again, no problem. I'm sure it fits some users needs well. Nothing wrong with that.

stunter