got a dollar figure? I can say I donate to all of these but it still doesnt make it true.... I sent a paperclip to mozilla foundation so now I am a supportteer? Or maybe it is saying, that they SUPPORT these as in, they have support for the products that are in their distro please email for support or open a SUPPORT ticket....

i think even linspire says they aren't linux just that linspire is BASED on linux or something like that....

Has anyone EVER got a source cd mailed to them from linspire? Has anyone seen the written offer int he retail box?

Don't show yourself as an uninformed person..

as one small sample just find out where does Wine came from.....



and more important Linspire is the Linux OS that hands down is bringing more people than any other distro from Windows to Linux... including me.

whew now that was a good laugh....
is that the reason they are always so low on distrowatch and others so much higher than them like mandrake and so forth....

I know for a fact that the figure for Linspire's direct contribution to other open source projects and distros, such as those listed above, is more than one million dollars. And that is direct financial contributions, not counting in-kind contributions like server space, and the Lphoto and Lsongs apps.

If you want more details, you'll have to approach the organizations that have received these funds. If they won't deal with you, then I guess there is no way to "prove" it to you.

Linspire uses the Linux kernel and is a full Linux distro. Anyone disputing that is not fully conversant with the facts.

I don't understand why a few people seem to have an antipathy towards Linspire. They beat $20M out of Microsoft; they are a desktop distro that aims to help Windows desktop users move to Linux. Linspire is the best shot that Linux has at making inroads into the Windows desktop market. Is that a goal you support or not?

Peter

I don't know about you but Linspire DOES support many Open Source products. For example, now I don't know how many of you people visit kde-look.org for KDE artwork and stuff like that. Well a while ago KDE-Look was is big trouble and was almost forced to close down. People at the Linspire forums sugested that they should do something about it and Linspire started to sponsor this site. The guy was gratefull and added a "sponsored by Linspire" button on his site (Linspire didn't ask him to do this).

Also when they were still is Pre-Release state and were still called Lindows and the product LindowsOS they transfered a lot of money to the WINE project to make WINE better for all of us. now support for this stoped since they realised it's better to support Linux Native software then a product like Wine since windows software will always run better on Windows then on Linux.

If you take a look at their site you will see that they support a bunch of project and some of them are already mentioned here and it's both with CASH and CODE, when they take a product and improve it they share the source with the xommunity (like the GPL states).

You can dislike Linspire as much as you want and even I don't agree with everything they do and have done but please don't start spreading FUD like M$ is doing.

People need to understand that the fight is ALL LINUX vs MICROSOFT and not Linspire vs Debian or Lispire vs RedHat !!
There is a reason why there are so many diffrent distro's out there and that's because diffrent people have diffrent needs. and Linspire is a great product for a whole lot of people out there. and if it's not for you just pick another distro.

"People need to understand that the fight is ALL LINUX vs MICROSOFT and not Linspire vs Debian or Lispire vs RedHat !!"

sorry but I dont want to kill of one dicatator only to replace it with another...

sco was part of united linux but I certainly do not count them as being on "our" side either...

Well $CO is just after the money and Microsoft is probably behind their actions.
Now I don't think you can compair SCO with Linspire.
and I do feel that the distro wars do more hard to GNU/Linux then you might think.

i didnt compare them, just pointing out that it isnt a two sided type of thing.... and I dont feel that linspire is a great example of the community...

JAJAJAJAJAJJA

YES!! Distrowatch is not looked by the newbies to Linux!! They don't even know it exists... That's why...

Go to their forums and look it by yourelf...... They ever talk about linux, about different OS options, they don't talk only about linspire, everybody is really helpfull, not only for Linspire users.


Go and look it by yoursefs, don't talk without knowing, Please guys.

OH okm well then show me your proof that linspire converts more people to linux than any other distro.... Im waiting..... as you said - dont talk without knowing...

Maybe it doesn't convert as many users, but it certainly doesn't turn away as many. Look at all these "not ready for the desktop" posts that compare Linux to Windows and complain how Linux isn't enough like Windows. Well, none of those posts ever starts, "My first distro was Linspire..." Almost always they start with Mandrake, Ubuntu, Fedora, or the like.

Linspire doesn't convert as many people because a lot of people are cheapskates. They want Linux to be a free version of Windows. They don't want Linux to be Linux. And they don't want Linux to cost money and be a Windows clone.

This thread should be retitled "troll-trap" because it's certainly caught a few

I personally dont have a problem if someone uses windows or what.... doesnt matter to me! You'll are the ones that want to take over the world. And if you come to linux and expect it to be a windows clone you should run quickly back to windows please..... now linspire may convert a windows user because it is a clone or trying to be one and actually claim to be one but I dont consider that to be a good thing....

heck i am not sure what your point even was....

i definately want lniux to be linux but that cerrtainly is not non-compliance with the license they chose and is NOT software subscriptions and pay and pay and pay...... and it certianly isnt running as root all the time and so forth.....

learn linspire-learn linspire
learn debian-learn linux

heck even linspire says they arent linux but BASED on linux.... didnt they also pay SCO some money.... yea i think i do remember that....

I agree with Xavier P, this thread reminds me of a quote wrote down when I was a kid (don't remember where I got it), and I keep coming accross it: "All out of steamed clams, however we have some really peeved lobsters" Stop wasting you time talking about Linblows! Why doesn't everyone here just cool down and adopt a new thread. I know I don't want to get caught up in this mess.

-Peter

P.S. If your going to argue about something, argue about something worth while, like politics! Geez!

Ok, one more edit: This has gone on long enough! Jesus christ! 26 PAGES!!!!!
What are you guys, nuts? CHILL!!!!!