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07-14-2005, 07:51 PM
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Registered: Jul 2005
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Aysiu,
I agree with you, from my point of view as a User of a OS, and not really caring who makes it or what it is.
Maybe I was to long winded in my post. I want an OS with associated applications that makes my job easier, and with all the NON-LINUX applications I deal with, I find Linspire to be the easiest to digest and use.
let me see if I can get anyones hair to stand on the next statement:
It would be nice to see redmond port MSOffice to Linux.
Robert
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07-14-2005, 07:55 PM
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Distribution: Ubuntu with IceWM
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Actually, I read in the news this may happen.
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07-14-2005, 08:00 PM
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#378
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OH WOW,
Thanks for the link. If this comes true,,,,,,I will buy it. Really, thats been my biggest complaint so far about linux in general. I have to have Word, Excel, and Visio., and so far, I have been relegated to using Win4Lin. (which by the way works great).
Robert
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07-14-2005, 09:22 PM
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Are your office needs that advanced that OpenOffice won't satisfy them? Wow! I have yet to find something I want to do that I can't do in OpenOffice. Of course, I don't use the super-advanced features of Office.
Last edited by aysiu; 07-14-2005 at 09:23 PM.
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07-14-2005, 10:27 PM
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#380
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LQ Guru
Registered: Feb 2004
Location: SE Tennessee, USA
Distribution: Gentoo, LFS
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Y'know... Lindows must have a market out there. And that market probably isn't too concerned about paying the vendor to do what they do. These sums are nominal, even trivial, and if they keep a company financially solvent (as all companies ultimately must be, unless they're Enron ) then it's money well-spent.
(How much money would you want, to put up with Windows-users all day?)
Lindows is a very special-purpose distribution. It's really "a product based on" a Linux-distribution, stripped down to encompass only what Lindows needs to do its assigned job. There is a certain amount of sense to that: "if this is what you are trying to accomplish," Lindows seems to be a reasonable way to do it. Not the only way but a reasonable one. So, let's cut 'em some slack[ware? ] here.
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07-15-2005, 12:11 AM
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Member
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Distribution: Lindows/Linspire, SuSE, PC-BSD, ubuntu, puppy
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sundialsvcs I think your para I quote below here is excellent. You have hit the nail right on the head.
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Lindows is a very special-purpose distribution. It's really "a product based on" a Linux-distribution, stripped down to encompass only what Lindows needs to do its assigned job. There is a certain amount of sense to that: "if this is what you are trying to accomplish," Lindows seems to be a reasonable way to do it. Not the only way but a reasonable one. So, let's cut 'em some slack[ware? ] here.
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Thank you for posting that
BTW it is Linspire now; the name was changed over a year ago
Last edited by eagles-lair; 07-15-2005 at 12:34 AM.
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07-31-2005, 08:59 PM
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You know whats worse? I wrote them a polite but somewhat nasty e-mail, and they replied with the automated e-mail saying they got it, and the next one said, something about they hoped that their support had solved the problem and that if I needed anything else I should e-mail them. Now I would like to "split a gusset" and cuss my brains out, but that won't get anything accomplished and it would just piss me off even more. Maybe their lack of complience has something to do with the fact that I called them a disgrace to the open source comunity .
-Peter
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08-01-2005, 03:20 PM
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Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 28
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Quote:
Originally posted by worldgnat
You know whats worse? I wrote them a polite but somewhat nasty e-mail, and they replied with the automated e-mail saying they got it, and the next one said, something about they hoped that their support had solved the problem and that if I needed anything else I should e-mail them. Now I would like to "split a gusset" and cuss my brains out, but that won't get anything accomplished and it would just piss me off even more. Maybe their lack of complience has something to do with the fact that I called them a disgrace to the open source comunity .
-Peter
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Wait a sec... you are bashing a Linux distribution and you call Linspire a disgrace...
...take a look in the mirror.
People fear what they don't understand and you appear to be clueless
about Linspire.
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08-01-2005, 03:42 PM
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Ok, I don't want to start a fight here, but LInspire isn't actually open source, seeing how their source isn't open unless your pay $50 + to open it. Second, I just wanted an explanation. Finally, I'm clueless to the fact of why Linspire would charge money for programs that you can get free. Let me give you an example, in winblows you have to buy a dvd codec to play dvds, right? Well Linspire tries to get you to buy DVD support, from them. See my point? But don't worry, I'm not affraid of Linspire, I just don't want to buy it. Oh ya, and by the way the title of this post is that Linspire isn't linux.
-Peter
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08-01-2005, 05:04 PM
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Registered: Apr 2005
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Quote:
Originally posted by worldgnat
Ok, I don't want to start a fight here, but LInspire isn't actually open source, seeing how their source isn't open unless your pay $50 + to open it. Second, I just wanted an explanation. Finally, I'm clueless to the fact of why Linspire would charge money for programs that you can get free. Let me give you an example, in winblows you have to buy a dvd codec to play dvds, right? Well Linspire tries to get you to buy DVD support, from them. See my point? But don't worry, I'm not affraid of Linspire, I just don't want to buy it. Oh ya, and by the way the title of this post is that Linspire isn't linux.
-Peter
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Those questions have been answered time and time again.
Read all of the posts in this topic.
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08-01-2005, 05:45 PM
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Forget it.....
-Peter
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08-01-2005, 11:01 PM
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Lee, NH
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Quote:
Originally posted by aysiu
Are your office needs that advanced that OpenOffice won't satisfy them? Wow! I have yet to find something I want to do that I can't do in OpenOffice. Of course, I don't use the super-advanced features of Office.
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You can open Visio files and run Visio apps in OpenOffice?
You can run M$ Access forms in OpenOffice> Sure, you can open tables but the queries and forms containe in the MDB files will not open. In other words, you can access Acce$$ data but not Acce$$ applications.
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08-02-2005, 12:59 AM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Scottsdale,AZ
Distribution: Linspire
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If you don't like it just use Debian. This distro is made more for Windows converts that don't want to learn cmd lines and want their programs already compiled for them. I learned alot from it so far. If I had to recomend a distro to a more or less novice user, I'd still say Linspire or Xandros.
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08-02-2005, 11:51 AM
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You know what? I was wrong. Linspire did respond to my support claim. They were very polite. (Now I feel stupid ) Anyway, I still disagree with the way Linspire calls itself Linux but isn't under GPL. To each his own I guess...
-Peter
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08-02-2005, 01:42 PM
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Registered: Aug 2005
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GUYS YOU KNOW NOTHING
Linspire, SUPPORTS A LOT Open Source: KDE, Firefox, IRMA project and others, even LSongs and Lphoto had been done to be open source.
Linspire costs, yes beacause also includes closed third party source on the OS the rest of non-cost linux doesn't include third party closed source, and also there's a lot of free deals to get Linspire for free.. Google it
CNR costs, yes for the convenience and ease of use, you can use Synaptic OR also DOWNLOAD FOR FREE the sources from Linspire and install by yourself. NO COST.
Also If you want the CNR free you can have it go to IRMA project page make some translations and done, you have CNR free....
If you want to install Linspire apps (Lsongs and Lphoto) on your own distribution go ahead and download them.. no cost. by the way Lsongs is compatible with ipod.
You don't have to pay if you don't want... don't say something that is not true!!!!!
first get the info and then start talking.
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