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Old 08-03-2005, 04:15 PM   #16
CloudyWizzard
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Well on the other hand I believe SCO is asking what someting like $1000 or more per Linux workstation for a license (I read someting about the Linux licenses you had to buy from SCO were very high). how could Linspire have bought such a License ??
Linspire is a small company but they have many thousand customers running Linspire (and with their OEM's they are almost giving it away). so wouldn't the license fee that had to pay SCO for EVERY Linspire (that includes LindowsOS SPX, LindowsOS 2.x and all the other Alpha and Beta versions) version they ever sold/released be to much for a company that asks $50 per unit ?? and with the Family License everybody can install Linspire on ALL the PC's in their household ?
I don't understand how they could have paid for a license like that, or am I wrong here ??
 
Old 08-03-2005, 04:23 PM   #17
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No, I don't like dishonnest people, but Linspire wasn't dishonnest about their license deal with SCO they clearly stated that they had that deal. I would have felt worse if they had made a silent deal with SCO at least they pointed it out to us.
well actually i think it was not brought to light until 2003 and if this is true then they did hide it from you'll but I may be completely wrong about this! BUt if the deal occurred in 2001 and nothing was mentioned until 2003....

Maybe if they didnt have supporters that supporrted them even when they possibly shouldnt it would send a message to clean up their act and fight for linux a bit more... This is strictly my opinion and is certainly fallible!

You said
"Well I guess every company makes some bad decisions but that doesn't make their product bad."

Doesnt it tho? So if company XYZ polutes the environment, uses child labor and so forth (not saying ANY company does this) then if they still put out a good product it would be alright to purchase it and use it?

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They don't always do what WE want but that's a diffrent story.
Then I would have to say they "hear" you but do NOT listen to you...

But I truly enjoy discussing things with you! You dont scream TROLL GET THE PITCHFORKS! Of course you also dont stop anyone from doing so either But you seem like the most rational person over there and I certainly apprecciate it!!! I certainly hope I did not offend! I know I use a lot of slang and spell horribly but I think we manage to understand each other!
 
Old 08-03-2005, 04:29 PM   #18
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And you can think of it this way....

By constantly challenging linspire and calling them out on the mat and stating things I feel is wrong and doing it so vehemently I FORCE them to look at their policies and procedures...

So you could say I am actually helping linspire, forcing them to be introspective, they may not like it but it gets things done now doesnt it!

SeanMcnamara may have his mile long discussions but I have the "in your face" argument, sometimes more effective, sometimes less but never without some action.....

I think linspire should be hiring me

Then again maybe I am completely ineffective, but they had all those years to correct teh source cd issue and it never got fixed did it!
 
Old 08-03-2005, 05:32 PM   #19
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By constantly challenging linspire and calling them out on the mat and stating things I feel is wrong and doing it so vehemently I FORCE them to look at their policies and procedures
Well, it might serve that purpose, if you had anything truthful to say.
But let's all refresh our memories about your last 2 days of posts:

1. "Linspire doesn't support open source". FACT: Linspire supports open source a whole lot more than most distros. Most distros do their own development, but do not fund third party work like Nvu and Reiser4. Linspire has funded this work and other Linux developments to the sum of more than $1 million.

2. "Linspire is going out of business". FACT: Linspire has $20M in the bank.

3. "Linspire source isn't available" FACT: I gave the download URL.

4. "Linspire broke the GPL license" FACT: No they didn't.

to which we add your latest misrepresentation:
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If you use lindows/spire does it bother you to know that part of the money that SCO is using came from you?
FACT: please explain how licensing some software from old SCO in 2001 (now Tarantella), has any bearing on actions by the current holders (Canopy/Caldera) of the SCO name, who bought the name in 2002. Just curious.

Will you next be slandering SuSE Linux, Turbolinux and Mandriva, for their 2002 work with SCO to standardize Linux distributions? If not, why not? Haven't they contributed more to the real SCO? Just curious about your true agenda.

Thanks,

Peter

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Old 08-03-2005, 05:57 PM   #20
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Well it was suppose to be a veiled attempt at humor

Oh peter the broken record

"FACT: please explain how licensing some software from old SCO in 2001 (now Tarantella), has any bearing on actions by the current holders (Canopy/Caldera) of the SCO name, who bought the name in 2002. Just curious."

I dont know, ask MR how something they "licensed" somehow makes them NOT a party to the current situation because he is the one that has said that!

Well I dont think a simple purchase of some old software from old SCO would somehow mean that you are not a party to the current cases! I think it would have to be a bit more than that dont you.... As I have asked before, if you have information to the contrary....

"Will you next be slandering SuSE Linux, Turbolinux and Mandriva, for their 2002 work with SCO to standardize Linux distributions? If not, why not? Haven't they contributed more to the real SCO? Just curious about your true agenda."

I am NOT slandering anyone!If I was I am sure the forum mods would take care of that!

No I wont ask because they dont say
"We want to take this opportunity to emphasize there are no issues between SCO and Lindows.com, Inc." (quote from MR)

And here I go again

I didnt say "Linspire doesn't support open source"
I simply asked for clarification of their support and wondered what they meant by the term support! I just dont care to believe without some proof!
Where is your proof of your facts peter?.

I didnt say "Linspire is going out of business" I said that they MAY not be around long... which is a possibility peter!
Where is your proof peter? Are you their accountant? You sneak the bank statement out? I asked you numerous questions about your facts and still have not received any answers! They do have abudget and money does get used correct?

I didnt say this "Linspire source isn't available" I said it does not ACCOMPANY the product! This is a GPL requirement as well as Linspire has said that you receive source code the same wya you receieve the product! Where is your proof of your facts peter?

I did say this "Linspire broke the GPL license" see above.....

Please peter, come up with something new!
 
Old 08-03-2005, 06:02 PM   #21
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I have said it before and I will say it again:

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If you have an issue with the forums, take it to the site admin/moderation team

LQ is primarily a help site, if you need to bash Linspire please do it elsewhere.

Jaketate, if you persist in these actions you will find that your posting privileges will be revoked.
 
  


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