i want to migrate from XP to Linspire 5-0, i need to know if i can run some applications on linspire:
Propellerhead Reason, Steinberg Cubase, Macromedia Freehand, Adobe Photoshop, eMule, Soulseek, DC++ and ICQ.
can i run them on linspire? maybe some, if so which? or none?


tnx

by the way, if i migrate to linux would they work?

All of your program except the first two are in the Wine Application DB. That does not mean they won't run, it just means that they aren't sure. To run any windows programs under Linux, you need something like Wine .

Most of the programs you mentioned also have alturnatives that are real big in the Linux community, such as Adobe Photoshop's alturnative of the GIMP. Many of these alturnatives are available for free, though you must go around Click-N-Run to get them free of charge. The biggest thing to remember is that Linspire is a propieritized, stripped-down variant of Debian, so expect to go through some dependencies, which should also be fairly easy to resolve.

That realy depends on what you're installing.
You can use APT on Linspire if you want, BUT ...
If you install some newer core libraries you can get into trouble. Linspire is highy costomized and some newer libraries in Debian's repositories can cause some trouble and sometimes even force you todo a reinstall of the OS.
I used APT on Linspire before and never had a problem, but that doesn't mean it's 100% safe.
I remember a user at the Linspire forums once saying to someone :
"just install digicam with APT and see how it trashes the system" I think digicam in APT needed a newer version of libglib (or some library like that which caused some damage on Linspire).

Basically if you don't want to use CNR it might be better to use plain Debian GNU/Linux or another gratis distro. Linspire is only supporting installation with CNR so when you use APT or anything else their Tech-Support isn't able to assist you (People on the Forums might, but that's not official support )

Since when has "official" support been any help? I've had nothing but voided warranties and other failures out of manufacturer's defects (including a brand spankin' new computer I got and had the hard disk crash in two weeks of operation )

Also, I mostly use flavors I have on hand. IE: I may see SuSE somewhere and I pick it up, Linspire attracted me to its promise of running Windows programs (which was not the case), and the occasional other flavor I am given. The only flavor I avoid is Mandrake, but it has proven itself to me as being nonfunctional on multiple computers. The guy who gave me Mandy loved it, but everything I tried was broken.

Well IF you can still read that (today) please contact the webmaster and ask them to change this.
Linspire stopped trying to run Windows software before their first "official" release.

I think that is part of the problem. They constantly change EVERYTHING. Maybe if they could decide on a course and stick with it!

Well I don't know what you mean by changing "everything" ?
The claim that LindowsOS should run Windows software has been false for about 3 years now I think, and like I said, it was only the original Insiders (I'm one of them) who were told about this (and the people visiting their site offcourse but that was still when Linspire was in Pre-Release state). Since it's General Release (LindowsOS 3.0) they NEVER stated that it would run Windows software (and they asked people to inform webmasters who stated otherwise to please fix this).

I guess you mean changing the package names and stuff like that, now I can relate to that. I would rather see XINE in the CNR warehouse then DVD Player, BUT The average Windows convert doesn't know what the heck XINE is or what it does, so renaming it to DVD Player (and I think it's only the name in the warehouse) isn't such a bad idea.

I think that they are still folowing the course they've set since the release of LindowsOS 3.0 (the WINE thing was a mistake and they relasised that). Offcourse Linspire is one of the few companies I know that actually listens to it's users so sometimes changes are made because their users requested it.

I saw the "runs Windows programs" thing when I reserved my copy of "Lindows" 4 (just before it was released). I soon got the goods, tried a Windows problem, and low and behold, it ran better under Knoppix, and Linspire didn't even know what it was. Upon going back to the Linspire site, I looked for support on it and saw an article saying that they have quit trying to do that, but nothing indicating that we should tell the webmasters about it. Oh well, I'll try to secure WINe.

we run windows software, we dont run windows software
we offer a lifetime membership, we dont offer a lifetime mebership
CNR uses apt, CNR doesnt use apt
CNR is $5 a month, nope 50 a year, nope $20 a year for the basic and 50 for the gold...
free CNR aisle, no 15 day free, no free aisle, nope...

changing everything as you go along does not impart a sense of focus.... to me anyway

Did you contact Linspire about this (or Lindows INC at that time) ?
If you bought Linspire/LindowsOS thinking it would run Windows software they used to offer you a full refund (if you wanted).

1. We run windows software :

yes that was their goal in the beginnen and YES they changed their minds when they saw it was almost impossible to do so, windows just needs to have a few changes in Vista and all work on WINE needs to be done again.

2. We offer a lifetime membership :

did you miss out on this deal and is that why you are so upset with Linspire ??
They clearly stated that the lifetime memberships was a limited offer (they only had 100 of them for the few countries that were under attack by Microsoft ($100 for a lifetime CNR membership to support their fight) and they had 500 of them for the World (when more countries where added). they NEVER stated they were gonna last long.

3. CNR User apt.

CNR is build on APT Technologie (or at least the older versions) I don't think they ever stated it uses APT (it used to use DPKG to install but I don't know if it still does). that's part of the progress. it's easier to use someting as a foundation to build on then to start work from the ground up.

4. CNR is $5 a month.

They originaly ONLY had the $50/year but because some people wanted to pay in monthly terms they added the $5/month deal. and now they decided to lower the basic price to $20/year and that's bad ???
C'mon prices change all the time and most of this price change in CNR is done bacause people requested it.
First you complain that $50/year is to much and when they lower it to $20/year (without major software upgrades to the OS) you complain they change to much ??
I think it's more Linspire learning from the past and trying to do better.

5. can't comment since I never had a trial or anyting and I don't know enough about that isue.

so, Yes they might change their minds on some things but Linspire is not the only company doing this.

You take everything I say as complaining.... I state it as information and leave it to the individual to decide what it is. Nothing more nothing less! If I say linspire does NOT include a written offer for source code then it is simply a statement of fact based upon the boxed edition I have sitting right here and have not found a written offer on it. How is the truth derogatory or misleading or compaining....
So anything that doesnt glorify linspire and make me sound like a linspire cheerleader is 'complaining' yet anything that does sound like a linspire cheerleader is ' good factual information that people need to know'? certainly it goes both ways doesnt it?

Well to me it sounded like complaining (at least for the majot part) If I misunderstood then I'm sorry for that.

If you state the true facts there is not a real problem, but if your previous post you stated that the Lifetime membership (for example) was something the first stated as something that was gonna last and then they changed their minds and decided to stop doing it. that's just not true since they never stated it was gonna last longer then the 100 or 500 memberships they offerd.

As for the written offer I don't know the facts on that one since I don't have a boxed version.
I do know that previous (versions 4.5 and before) didn't have a written offer but the 5.0 should have one (at least that's what I understand). but like I said, I don't know for sure. What I do know is that when you request them to send you the sourcecode by mail (contact Kendall for example) they will send it to you. I know that's not a written offer.

I didnt state that they said it was going to last...only that it was something they offered and then they changed it. Nothing more, nothing less....
Oh, and I have the box edition right here comes with the LinspireExtras which I guess it is what theya re calling CNRexpress nowadays, it also comes with the printed getting started guide, as well as a little 'powered by linspire' sticker, cardboard box inside the pretty blue flipfront box.......... no written offer......
As I said before, could they be that they just keep saing they are going to fix it so you'll will stick up for them again and again.... shouldn't you'll check before you'll stand up for something....

Sorry XavierP I know this is OT but I am just responding to cloudy in a discussion we were having...