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Old 05-03-2008, 06:56 AM   #1
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Could Freespire have drivers that Ubuntu lack for Intel 915 chipset?


I have a barebone. Aopen XC cube Mini MZ915Z and that motherboard
use Intel 915 chipset. I've used a dualboot with Ubuntu 7.04 WUBI

and the shutdown failed every time. But IIRC the restart fucntion
everytime.

Now when I go to intel and look for drivers for Linux it says that
for my machine they only have drivers for winXP and maybe Vista.

I have XPHome on mine. Works great but I need to learn Linux
for future use and I am a slow learner.

Now by accident I found that 2006 Aopen together with Linspire
and Intel 915 they made a small size box computer that had Linspire
Linux on it. As far as I know Linspire is a payed product while Freespire maybe is for free for personal use?

My question. Could they have different drivers in the Linspire and the Freespire so that only if I buy that special made computer only then
they provide the drivers for shutdown?

Are not Linspire and Freespire same? It says that Freespire is made up of Ubuntu as I get it?

Sadly me forgot name of that computer. I try to find it. I get back

http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/2006/06/...mini-linux-pc/

Quote:
Mirus, Linspire and AOpen Introduce $399 Mini Linux PC
By NEWS RELEASE | June 29th, 2006
I mean so much is common to my machine.

Aopen
Linux.
Intel 915 chipset.

So either Linspire or Aopen have paid Intel to get enough info to make the drivers or they have promised to only provide these drivers for that Mirus machine and none other? Or should I trust that this is Freespire software that will work on my machine too?

The ordinary ubuntu fail to shut down.
Here is my machine
http://xc.aopen.com.tw/CubeProduct_0...2170&mdstyl=22

Last edited by nooby; 05-03-2008 at 07:06 AM.
 
Old 05-03-2008, 08:28 AM   #2
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Hi, nooby:
Would it be possible to give us a little more information on this statement.

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and the shutdown failed every time. But IIRC the restart fucntion
everytime
Not sure why you think it's in the video driver do you not have a display when you boot the computer? or do you get a tty terminal and no X?
 
Old 05-03-2008, 12:53 PM   #3
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Hi davimint,

well, that is why I ask if freespire could have same drivers as the one that Linspire use in the computer I talk about that have same Intel 915 chipset as I have in my MZ915Z and they are made about same time. Mine maybe a 6 month to a year older. On a support page for my computer they say it only works for windows xp and that was what I experienced too. Totally failed to shutdown. I don't remember exactly how it looked but most likely a black screen and hours later same screen and me had to go to sleep so I had to do a hard reboot. Holding the power button in until it stopped working. It is impossible to sleep when the computer is running. close to head. I live in one small room.

Each time me do hard reboot it destroys part of windows xp so I need to use recovery DVD and that is not a good thing.

so me is eager to find solutions to this.

When I read that Sears are selling a cheap computer with Linspire or maybe Freespire linux on it. Most likely a variation of Ubuntu 7.04 or later.

so they either have a slightly different version that they know how to shutdown or they have payed for drivers from Intel so the 915 chip set shut down properly.

Has not anything to do with graphic or video driver as far as I know.

I mean the driver of the shutdown processes. ACPI and DPDT or what the name is. I'm a noob so me fail to get what such is. They sequencely shut down power to all the different parts so they are powered down in right order.

So tell me more about the freespire, does it have same drivers that the Sears machine have? I fail to find any info on the web about it.
 
Old 05-05-2008, 04:54 AM   #4
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I hope someone will give me an answer here in forum some day but while for this to happen me got myself virtualbox prog and now use ubuntu 8.04 within that vbox and that work great. A bit slower than a dual boot but only slightly. I even can see youtube clips.
 
Old 05-05-2008, 09:30 PM   #5
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Sorry, for the delay.
The drivers in Linux ( does not matter what distro ) are actually part of the kernel which in Linux land are called "modules". You were talking about Linspire and Freespire and the 915 chipset. Probably both of these distros have the module for the 915 chipset complied in the kernel. The older driver is called "i810" and the newer one is "intel" iirc. Now, what I personal think is going on is this. Your distro either "Linspire" or "Freespire" is set to go directly to a "X" through a session manager which could be either xdm, gdm, or kdm. When this is done and you do not have the prorper setting in your xorg.conf then you will get a "blank screen" and it will lock the computer up most of the time. Now for the solution or at least something to try. I would get a "liveCd" and boot from it to see if eveything worked. Since I use Slackware and "Zenwalk" is slackware based I could try to help you out if you used that one. Ok, the next step is to clear up the problem with XP not playing nice with Linux. Depending on how you answered some question when you installed Linspire or Freespire you could have changed the partition scheme of your hard-drive and you have have even set up a LVM which is something I know nothing about. I know others probably will flame me for this but I hate LVM's on a home system but I feel sure they have their place but I just can't see that on a home system. One way to check to see what you have done to your system is to download another liveCD called gparted which will let you look at what has been done on your system in a GUI interface which may help you understand. You are having some problems which I think are are config related and not hardware related because most hardware will run on linux that will run on windows.

Again, sorry for the delay.
 
Old 05-06-2008, 05:32 AM   #6
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Thanks indeed for caring about my odd problem.

Sears are selling one version of this computer
Quote:
Mirus, Linspire and AOpen Introduce $399 Mini Linux PC
By NEWS RELEASE | June 29th, 2006
The newer even cost l00 dollar less. As far as I get it they have
Aopen as the company building it and Intel 915 chipset on motherboard
and Linspire as linux software.

Now I have another Aopen with Intel 915 chipset so it should be possible
to use but everytime me tried it crashed the dual boot set up with windows.

Why did it crash?

Cause the linux program should shut down in a clean way which it failed.

I tried the recommended ACPI settings but me being a noob might have goofed.

But others have failed too when intel have not giving the needed info to the
Kernel builders for kernel 2.6 and such on ordinary distros.

On Ubuntu Forum one "expert" there admitted that not all hardware was covered due to intel not giving out info on how do do drivers for free.


Could it not be that Linpspire and Aopen and Mirus actually paid to Intel for them
to give that info and that the dístro for the cited above machine that Sears sell are a special version that the ordinary distros of Linspire and Freespire doesn't have?


I am a newbie so I know too little about the interplay between software and hardware but the software send a shut down sequence to the hardware and that should be in a "clean" order for it to work. Mine didn't stop the Hard Drive and the Fan and it is impossible to sleep having them one yard from my ears. No I will not use anything in ear to mask the noise. such hurts.

Apart from going on all night it destroyed the windows set up most likely MBR or something so one needed to use the recovery CD to get windows going again.

So my question is this.

If I download Freespire 2.0 or what the latest is.

Does that one have same kernel and drivers as the one Sears are selling?

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