IMHO, you're correct.

I also think it's help MS make a case in their "get the facts" story.

I think we should get free updates as long as we own a version # distribution. If we want a new version, I don't mind paying for that.

They have a right to drop support at some point, but a community site should be able to build upgrades.

Yes... ans with RHEL updatesare guaranteed for AT LEAST 5 years... I don't know about you.. but I'm next to positive that I will be running something better than RHEL v. 3 in 2008!!!

I have ordered a couple of the "get the facts" stories.. and the only proof that I have been able to see in the TCO of Windows Server over Linux is that Linux systems admins and technicians make significantly more money... hmm... something think about egh?

I saw a demo of the JDS. It looked like fifty bucks worth of eye candy. I think this is Suns way of gasping for air. Solaris is getting the crap kicked out of it by linux and Sun's hardware is getting the crap kicked out of it by MUCH cheaper X86 systems. Sun is setting. This is just their way of saying "No don't go we have linux to."

Joseph_M,

I came over here only on the LQ Newsletter notice that Sun had a new group here.

I don't see many people jumping in to support the product. Jeez, $50 is not much, but it must be a last gasp effort as you say.

Certainly I have enough "eye candy" with my SuSE 9.1 Pro set-up. My laptop rocks!

SUN should be "carpet-bombing" their product like AOL does. Gather as many casualties as you can. And then let God sort them out.

Bizarre how the corporate world functions so disfunctionally. Thanks for your post. It gave me a chance to rant.

alas... I think you are sadly mistaken.... Suns's hardware outperforms the shit out of x86 based systems.. and solaris is more stable than any linux distro you will use... Sun may be trying to gain more market exposure by suddenly offering linux as well... but I say good for them... how many home users do you know running Solaris on a desktop that's not an uber-guru??

Apparently you don't know of Solaris 10... which is in advanced beta and due out in December...

Some of the main specs:

The worlds first 128-bit file system
- This means it is capable of data storage capacity recognition of 16 billion billion times that of 32-bit file systems (i.e. - NTFS, ext3) So tell me.. what would do with 32 billion billion Terabytes?? (Take over the world I imagine )

N1 Grid Containers
- Essentially runs each process of the operating system on it's own, dynamically resizable, partition. Which, by the way, is also a self healing file system capable of detecting and correcting errors before they cause problems...

So before you claim that "Sun is setting" I suggest you do your homework as the world's most popular UNIX distrobution isn't going anywhere any time soon...

I would say that for being as new of a distro as JDS is... it looks very nice.. and well polished..

(First SUSE user I ever heard bitch about eye-candy....lol)

I love SuSE.. but it's definitely got A LOT of eye candy...

halo14,

Send me a copy here in Arizona.

Let's spread the Word!

You got to be kidding me. Look at this link:
http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.htm...uf=0&x=15&y=14

This is a page that has a graph of Sun's stock prices. It clearly shows that the Sun is setting. Sun's stock went from a high in the mid sixty dollars a share to todays four dollars a share. And it's been at the four dollar level for a few years now. Looks like a last gasp to me. That's how I do my home work. Get a clue. And by the way use your spell checker.

Joseph_M

I suggest you take your flame-bate to a different forum.

-Sam Hiser

It's free download for evaluation in Sun's website... just register...


And yes... I appologize for this thread turning into a flame...


This is not the proper forum to argue about Sun's capital... So if you want... start up a thread in General called Sun is Setting... or something like that.. and I will be happy to prove you wrong some more...

(Stock prices aren't a determining factor of Sun's presence.. just the amount of people who own Sun stock... It may be fairly low... but it's remained the same for about 3 years... There is still about 38 Million shares out to holders... )

halo14,

Send me the link if you can. Then I'll download it.

http://wwws.sun.com/software/solaris...s/get_x86.html

This for Solaris x86... If you actually have a Sparc system than just backtrack 1 page...

It's the first link if you google "Solaris10 download"

halo14,

Thanks for the link.

Just to fill in a bit on this thread...

Domestic US people can purchase affordable PC's from Wal-Mart with JDS installed:
http://www.nwfusion.com/net.worker/n...walmteams.html

So, the JDShelp group is supporting the SO/HO & SMALL BUSINESS people (to supplement Sun's enterprise focus) and we are working on alternatives that would make it easier to source the software, try it out and locate close local support. We visualize JDS being just as accessible as any other distro--in the near future.

-Sam

Thanks for the update.

I have seen those PCs at Wal-Mart, and was considering purchasing one or two fro my office. Do these come with the JDS discs and a membership than? Because I would like to purchase them for my an office I am the System Admin for, but they would then be reformatted with XP (I can't make the decision to switch to linux, though I'm getting close)

But if I could then have the discs to insall on something else, like my notebook.. I would definitely get one.. perhaps two...

halo-
Let me get you an answer.
-Sam