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spietrolucci 07-03-2007 05:28 AM

Grafpup fails to start from HD
Hi all!

I'm quite new to the Linux world, since it's quite some time since I used to mess up with this OS, but recently I decided to "upgrade" my old laptop to Linux and after some reading around I decided to go for Grafpup.

I first downloaded 1.04 deluxe and after having tried it from live CD for a while I decided to go for the 2.00 final (I downloaded and burned grafpup-2.00-seamonkey.iso)...and here come the problems:

I manage to make a first run from the live CD and to save the grf_save file, but when I restart the pc, after having installed the system via the System Install utility

all I get (after some rebooting stuff) is something like
Loading kernel modules...
Error: attempting to kill init!

and it finally hangs!

Here you have some info about the configuration of my laptop:

1 HD drive 2 partitions: 1 main active Windows XP, 1 secondary FAT32, which I reserved for Grafpup

I have, or at least I think I have, installed the patch which I downloaded from www grafpup org

Do you have any solution to my problem? (any more info needed?)

Thanks a lot!

mike sumner 07-04-2007 03:27 AM

Hi spietrolucci, I take it that you are trying to do a type 1 (Frugal) install. I had difficulty with a type 1, but cant exactly remember the details, and decided on a full type 2 instead. Posting your grub menulst entry might help.

Something you could try is renaming (or deleting if there is nothing important on it) the save file (You could do this using the live cd.) so that the frugal install does not pick it up, and then make a new one when you shut down, if you get the install running.

spietrolucci 07-04-2007 08:17 AM

hi mike,

yes, your guess is right I'm trying a frugal:
so far I tryied your suggestion too but nothing changes.
To startup the system I'm using the live-CD + save file combination.

I'm not exactly willing to switch to a full install, so I think I'll be trying something different or a different distro...:cry:

thanks anyway

mike sumner 07-04-2007 12:35 PM

If you format your spare partition to ext2, you could have a type 2 full install in a matter of minutes!

Do you know how to find your menulst entry?

spietrolucci 07-05-2007 01:26 AM

not exactly...

anyway I read something about that file: it looks like something belonging/useful to GRUB (which I didn't install yet, since I'm still booting from CD)

Can you make a list of the steps I should do for installing and using GRUB to start up?
(a reference to some other post containig the info would be more than appreciated as well)


mike sumner 07-05-2007 08:32 AM

You cannot normally boot a hard drive install without installing grub, unless you are booting from a boot floppy. I have, though, just found this recent thread on the puppy forum which might be worth reading:

The installer has step by step instructions and will automatically install grub if you allow it to. You can do a type 1 frugal install to a fat32 partition but I have always installed grub to a linux partition, such as ext2.

If you decide on a type2 install, I would reformat the fat32 to ext2 and install grub to it when prompted during the install. I also use the 3rd grub option to install to MBR. The puppy 2.14 manual has a useful section on installs. Get it here:



EDIT - Use grafpup pfix=ram when you boot from cd. Dont forget to take your cd out of the drive before you reboot the hard drive install. The advice in the manual on the menulst entry may not work for grafpup, but grafpup should insert the correct entry when it installs grub if you let it. You will need to apply the patch to the new install.

spietrolucci 07-06-2007 02:34 PM

Hi mike,

thanks a lot for the many suggestions!
I've been reading a lot myself and I have discovered a Linux&WIn (or kind of) project and I'm confident that either with that or the links you posted I'll be able to get past my problems.

I'll let you know.

Thank you again.

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