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Granted most of the scripts I write are so that I don't have to keep redoing the same thing over and over again. If that wasn't the appropriate thing to do, we would all have monochromatic displays with nothing but a text interface. So if all you want to do is shake your head at those people who use GUI's, that's ok too. Just be careful about how you "inform" them about their "inadequacy". Otherwise it just comes across as insulting. And frankly, I want everyone using Linux. That's not going to happen if the luminaries are denegrading those of lesser skill. Lighten up! It's kind of like using training wheels. First you learn to maintain your balance. Then you build the confidence to go around the block. And before you know it, your reading maps and riding cross-country! So for crying out loud, give them a break. They will learn what they need to learn as they build the confidence to explore their own potential and that of Linux. |
And for the lack of GUI's, I use webmin.
And while webmin may not have everything, it is a good move in the right direction. Before that, I used linuxconf. It was very good too. But honestly, I like pictures. I more easily remember things when they are in color. I think that has actually been proven true of most people in psychological studies that have been done. Why else do you think we have color displays even on the commandline? I don't know how it is in emacs or vim, but when I am reading source code in mcedit, damn a lot of it is in color. It all comes down to recognition. Their is no learning without recognition. Which would you rather have? A pilot flying a 747 with a graphical heads-up display, or one fumbling through a commandline console? It might work for the engineer who designs the system, having the time to work in a relatively stress-free environment. All of those GUI's you see in a cockpit are there to reduce stress as much as possible. So why can't that be applied to a users environment in Linux? Stress is the mind killer!
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GUI's are just for amateurs...
Interesting. All of you who think so, should tell that to these Gentoo developers. Just check out this site and see how much water your arguments hold.
http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ge...040301/page=70 Of course, visual aides are only for amateurs. Yeah, I'm an amateur! |
Shingoshi, no offense man, but I hardly consider function/arg. graphs on the same level as a GUI. To use your own language here, a GUI and a "visual aid" are not always the same thing. Visual aids don't do things for you, they merely show you whats already been done. A GUI actually performs tasks for you. A GUI is a visual aid with extra functionality tacked on to not only show you, but do for you.
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Am I supposed to smack the mat now! You're right. I'm lazy. I'd like to be able to just talk to the damn thing and have it clean my house too! Maybe even make my bed in the morning and pour my coffee as well! Maybe soon, she'll even do my laundry. Yeah, I'm lazy!! |
This is funny, one year later...
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Some of you will drop your mouths open when I say that I regularly use 20 desktops in KDE. I had set aside three of them last year, just for running my Gentoo chroot in Slamd64. Now, I am back. And once again I am trying to remember what all I did back in 2007. So you should have heard my laughter, when I came across this exchange from way back then. And again, I was looking for "emerge-gui" in Google. So here I am being reminded by my own words from a year ago. I hope that in the transpired time, that others have been helped too. Thank you, me. Shingoshi LOL |
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i noticed earlier in this thread, a mention of apathy in learnin a cli, the simple fact is, the only reason we have computers in the first place, is because humans are to lazy to learn to do things manually, we want everything done automatically and more intuitively. i personally have no problem with a CLI or a GUI, i'll admit a CLI generally grants you more control, but it can tend to be slow. on the other hand, a GUI puts a barrier up between the user and the nuts and bolts,i changed to linux to be able to customise my OS and access those nuts and bolts, therefore i do like doing things in a combination of graphical and command line interfaces.
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