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Old 11-06-2022, 11:48 PM   #1
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Exclamation Your thought on the Halloween Crowd Crush which ended lives of 156 young people in 2030s?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seoul_...en_crowd_crush

As for me

I am surprised how fragile we are, biologically

No guns, knives, or any type of hazardous weapons were involved, and it all happened even before the police force arrived at the scene.
 
Old 11-07-2022, 05:40 AM   #2
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I thought we're technically still in the 2020s, but never mind. It's very sad.

As a kid, we used have to enter our senior school through a narrow door. What's worse, it was a double door, but the Jesuits would only open half of it. This was probably to control the crowds on the stairs. If you got trapped against the edge, it was painful. Your ribs could be crushed, you usually couldn't push yourself away. and you needed someone to take pity on you and hold the crowd off while you wriggled through. I learned to queue up in the middle and wait so I always had people between me and the sides.

It sounds like in Korea there were just too many pushing too hard, and it made mincemeat of anyone on the edges. Bones stressed across a concrete corner or edge would break. Ribcages would cave in. Very sad.
 
Old 11-07-2022, 08:39 AM   #3
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I remember on Millennium Night I went down to the Thames by tube to see the fireworks. It was an amazing display, much better than municipal fireworks, but we were all packed as tight as sardines. And when it was over, I wondered how we were going to get out of there. A couple of French boys started pushing and shoving, and that could easily have led to a crush developing. But a man shouted "Everybody stand still! There are kids here!" And that did it. No one wanted the children to be harmed or frightened.

So we all just stood and waited. And if there was a small space in front of you, you took a step forward. And if not, you just stood. After quite a while, I noticed that my steps forward were now quite frequent. Soon after that, I found myself actually walking slowly forward amid a dispersing crowd.

That man, whoever he was, probably saved lives that night.
 
Old 11-07-2022, 09:46 AM   #4
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As population grows. Running amok will be more prevalent. I expect things to get worse instead of better.

But I am biased. Hate living in cities. So I don't.
 
Old 11-07-2022, 04:14 PM   #5
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It happens way more frequently then you think.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...es_and_crushes

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Old 11-07-2022, 06:15 PM   #6
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You figure after the 1st Hajj stampede everyone would learn something.
But. Over and over again.

Ever work as a roadie at a rock concert? I have. The crowd rush is expected every time.
 
Old 11-08-2022, 01:43 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
The crowd rush is expected every time.
Nowadays, yes, but it took a few fatal mistakes: the crowd rush wasn't expected at the Altamont festival in 1969 nor a decade later at The Who's concert in 1979 at Cincinnati, Ohio.

One thing that is different is that since SMS days, flash crowds have been not just been possible but actually take place. There's only so much one can do with the resources at hand when the crowd size surges by one, two, or even three orders of magnitude over half an hour.
 
  


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