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View Poll Results: Would you go back to Windows?
Yes 5 13.16%
NO! 22 57.89%
Hell NO, I would rather eat my own s***! 6 15.79%
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Old 08-14-2017, 06:52 PM   #16
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I have to go back to Windows every spring so as to use my income tax software, but I don't stay very long.
 
Old 08-14-2017, 06:57 PM   #17
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I've already gone back to Windows for work reasons. In fact, it's what I use mostly lately (though I still prefer Linux).
 
Old 08-14-2017, 11:48 PM   #18
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Talking Would you ever go back to Windows??

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After using Linux, would you ever go back to Windows?
I'm a slightly older tech and novice programmer, so I need to keep my skills up on all systems. The nicest linux box I had built finally died, so I picked up a refurbished one with win10 on it. Needed the modern win anyway. I run slackware64 in vbox on it. It does alright, too.
 
Old 08-15-2017, 01:32 AM   #19
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It's no longer a question that "Microsoft lost the total War." The millions of phones in people's pockets don't run Windows: it's a little painful to walk by a "Microsoft store," so obviously aping Apple, with absolutely no customers inside. No one cares about Microsoft-branded tablets or phones. And, no one ever will.

All of the phone technologies (and OS/X) are based on open-source foundations, which puts the necessary technical decision making in the hands of the device-makers, not a proprietary vendor which may or may not (and probably, does not) align with their business objectives. That's never going to change, whether Redmond likes it or not. The technical advantages of open source and collaborative development are insurmountable.

And it looks very much like "Windows 10" is going to be "yet another Vista," in spite of Microsoft's attempts to force an upgrade on their customer base whether they wanted one or not. Really, the Windows product-line stalled at Windows-XP, and maybe Windows-7. They have not managed to deploy a single release of their system since then which actually "stuck." I seriously think that Microsoft has the worst case of "IBM Disease" that I have ever seen. (And, CEO Lou Gertsner cured IBM of that disease, as he describes in his excellent biography, Who Says Elephants Can't Dance?)

The Windows operating system does work, such that they'll continue selling licenses and support for it for a long time to come, but it's no longer "in the hands of good and capable stewards." It's dying, really. Although things this large take a long time to die.
I've often thought a very similar thing, in that once you can no longer buy a desktop PC, Windows (at least in the home environment) would not have that market anymore. I also think it would be a number of years before that happens though.

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I was going to ask something else, but for whatever reason, asked what I have.
 
Old 08-15-2017, 08:25 AM   #20
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You can never go back. As some Greek philosopher said, you can't step into the same river twice. I last used Windows when the current version was XP, but (being old-fashioned even then) I was still using Win98. I couldn't use a modern version of Windows now because I wouldn't know where to begin.

When I bought Littleboy, it had Win7 on it. I booted it briefly to check that the wifi worked but I couldn't make head nor tail of what I was seeing onscreen. It was running some kind of compulsory tutorial in a window without a frame and I couldn't even see how to shut that down. I quickly shut down the whole system and rebooted with SystemRescue, then cleared that rubbish off the drive!

More recently a neighbour asked me to help him recover some lost photographs on his laptop. I think that was in Win8. I couldn't find them because the pathname that supposedly led to them wasn't a real path but some kind of virtual path leading to a "library" that wasn't a library at all and wasn't a real folder either. It wasn't working because a symbolic link had obviously broken somewhere, but there was no way to find out where.

How could I learn all that stuff nowadays? I'm too old to get my head around it!
 
Old 08-15-2017, 08:44 AM   #21
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I will use whatever I must for work. At home, I would never choose the pay for a Microsoft license for anything, and I refuse to compromise my ethics and use any of that software without a valid license.

To be fair, I also never pay for a RHEL license at home and I LOVE RHEL and Red Hat. There is just nothing I do at home that justifies an annual fee for software. I do recommend licensed RHEL for work projects due to all of the usual reasons (stability, reliability, ease of troubleshooting, speed, etc.), but those reasons all apply equally well to CentOS, Debian, etc. for home server and workstation purposes.
 
Old 08-15-2017, 08:57 AM   #22
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I'm retired, so no employer influence. I see several comments using win for tax software. My solution is my better half does the taxes on her win 7 system.

I do have a XP system I run on V-box, mostly for running my HP scanner. It runs under Sane, but the slide scanner portion does not work under Sane. The only other use I make of it is the once in a while I have to configure some device like the Logitech TV clicker. Not many tech provider companies provide software to accomplish this type of task. XP was the last version of Windows I purchased, over 10 years ago.

Even my low powered HP netbook runs Slackware 14-2/64.
 
Old 08-15-2017, 09:16 AM   #23
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I'd rather take a shower in Prison.
 
Old 08-15-2017, 10:57 AM   #24
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To my way of thinking, the worst enemy of the Windows Operating System is the Marketing Department at Microsoft Corporation. Always has been ...
 
Old 08-15-2017, 11:21 AM   #25
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RE: sundialscvs

Curious, have you ever dealt with their so-called customer service/support?
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Old 08-15-2017, 11:31 AM   #26
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Curious, have you ever dealt with their so-called customer service/support?
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I have a feeling, you have a story to tell here... please don't keep it to yourself, share with us!
 
Old 08-16-2017, 08:58 AM   #27
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I have gone back to windows, but its far from my primary OS as i use linux a good 95% of the time.
My only reason for even booting into windows is games, but I never spend more than a day on windows (unless I am sick)
 
Old 08-16-2017, 07:40 PM   #28
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I go back to Windows every time I go home and take a seat at my desk (well, not every time since that machine can also boot into Xubuntu, but I don't use it very often on this machine). Linux is perfect for my laptop, but when I want to do gaming, Wolfenstein level design (the WDC editor, my favorite of the available editors, is Windows-only), or productive things, Windows generally has better software available, and probably always will unless a socialist revolution happens and eliminates proprietary software development. And while OSX and Android may have an "open-source foundation", for all practical purposes OSX is absolutely proprietary software and so are the implementations of Android that 90%+ of smartphone users will encounter. What does it really matter if the vanilla Android repo is open-source if the version on your smartphone won't even let you elevate to root?

Also I don't buy cheap prebuilt computers (and even the one really nice prebuilt I have, a Lenovo ThinkPad T520 laptop, runs Linux), I use high-quality components (Antec High Current Gamer power supplies, expensive motherboards, WD Red or Gold HDDs, 8-16 GB RAM of the fastest speed available) and I lock Firefox down pretty tight by not just having an ad blocker but a script blocker so no active content runs unless I've whitelisted it, so I don't have the problems other people have with Windows. My old Windows PC would go weeks at a time without a reboot, and my new one probably would too if not for Windows 10 updating and rebooting itself in the middle of the night. Windows just works for me, and all my desktop Windows boxen have run like Swiss watches since I got my first XP box in 2006.

Now Windows 98 on the other hand, there's a garbage OS. I added Windows 2000 to my retro rig because in more demanding Windows games under 98, I could see my framerate dropping by the minute, and setting 98 up took an entire week of hair-pulling frustration. The only worthwhile aspects of Windows 98 is that (a) some games like MechWarrior 3 leave you with no choice but to use it, and (b) Windows 98 is a great way to run a DOS rig because MS-DOS 7.1, which comes with 98, largely uses 98 to configure itself and is much easier to set up than MS-DOS 6.22. Just install your Sound Blaster emulation and CD-ROM drivers and add BootGUI=0 to your CONFIG.SYS and you'll be good to go.

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Old 08-17-2017, 10:05 PM   #29
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@ Woolie_Wool - We have some similarities in that I have built every machine I've ever owned since 1989 with the exception of two laptops (a Sony and an IBM) and one Dell Tower I inherited. Additionally I am an avid gamer and even ran a 24/7 Minecraft server for a few years. I also run my main as a DAW with a custom kernel for realtime, low-latency (which is great for gaming if your hardware is up to the task) and actually that was the last holdout obstacle to leaving Windows entirely about 7 years ago. I do have an old Win7 install lying around but I have gone for 14+ month stretches without ever booting it and i will never "upgrade" to 8 or 10, ever. Well I could possibly be seduced if Windows had an actual full root account, a customizable kernel, didn't force updates, didn't spy on me and became largely Open Source but then they never will and I already have that and more.

I would like to point out two things - (1) Swiss watches don't ask you to wait for several minutes while they run a forced update, and (2) WDC v. 1.8.398 (and everything that I don't have a native Linux alternative for) runs just fine in WINE. Maybe I should add one more - Between Wine and Steam it is an extremely rare occurrence that a game comes out that I can't run. There are a few that run better in Windows but most, especially those requiring quick responses and low latency TCP/IP networking, run better in Linux.

I do have a retro box running 98Lite but I may try to replace that with VirtualBox and/or FreeDOS.
 
Old 08-18-2017, 01:26 AM   #30
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NO.
But real work requirement forced me to configure a virtual Windows 7 box.
There I am using Excel, PowerPoint and Word from Microsoft Office (to me they are just better for advanced features while compared to their LibreOffice equivalents).
 
  


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