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Old 06-05-2016, 12:27 PM   #1
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Would it be strange, sad, or funny??


Would it be strange, sad, or funny to the people in the United States if both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were defendants on trial in courts of law during the November presidential election??
 
Old 06-05-2016, 04:53 PM   #2
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Personally, I think it would be very sad. I don't care for either candidate, but if they are candidates, I'd like for them to be respectable people. Unfortunately, I think that this year "Respectable Candidate" is an impossibility.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 08:18 PM   #3
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My natural faith in mankind tells me,

time will come, maybe very soon, when we will wish back Obama, Putin, Merkel, Hollande, maybe even Erdogan.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 08:22 PM   #4
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The US hasn't had a "respectable candidate" for POTUS for at least 30 years.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 10:36 PM   #5
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Whatever one might think of Hillary Clinton, only someone who lives in a Fox News/AM talk radio bubble could credibly expect that she could be indicted for anyth--oh, never mind.

And don't get me started on Trump. I'm a Southern Boy. I know a bigot when I see one.

Remember, if you are unwilling to vote for the lesser of two evils, you will most surely wind up with the evil of two lessers.

(I tried to resist. I really did.)

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Old 06-05-2016, 11:22 PM   #6
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Don't get YOU started ???.
The rest of the world has to put up with this sh!t for nigh on a year as well. As if we don't have enough of our own.
 
Old 06-05-2016, 11:33 PM   #7
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syg00, I have nothing but sorrow that the rest of the world has to watch my country go insane with bigotry and hate.

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Old 06-06-2016, 03:13 AM   #8
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Whatever one might think of Hillary Clinton, only someone who lives in a Fox News/AM talk radio bubble could credibly expect that she could be indicted for anyth--oh, never mind.

And don't get me started on Trump. I'm a Southern Boy. I know a bigot when I see one.

Remember, if you are unwilling to vote for the lesser of two evils, you will most surely wind up with the evil of two lessers.

(I tried to resist. I really did.)
I don't live in a Fox News/AM talk radio bubble and I think Clinton should have gone to jail for Travelgate.

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Old 06-06-2016, 05:34 AM   #9
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The US hasn't had a "respectable candidate" for POTUS for at least 30 years.
My information about USA president candidates is not enough. But, I found Sanders a respectable nominate. I would vote him if he was in Iran.

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Old 06-06-2016, 06:48 AM   #10
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My information about USA president candidates is not enough. But, I found Sanders a respectable nominate. I would vote him if he was in Iran.
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/b...ling-money-to/
 
Old 06-06-2016, 07:27 AM   #11
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In the end, the digital computers will elect whomever they please. There will be no paper trails; nothing to audit.

And those people, for the next eight years, will proceed to continue to do precisely what they have done: escalate un-declared wars throughout the world while denying health care, retirement, a private-property home, a college education, and so forth, to their own people. Drunk with "endless wealth" that, in fact, is being "borrowed" (millions of US Dollars a minute) from themselves, the "eight hundred richest people in the world" will see no fault in any of this.

"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Never forget that.

From a historical perspective, the United States of America is a strange anomaly ... a quirk of geography and naval technology. A bunch of European settlers found themselves too-far away from England for English naval power, on the eastern shore of what turned out to be an entire continent peopled by folks with no resistance to smallpox. As Europe decimated itself in two major wars, America strove to become a new Imperial power. It still conducts international negotiations with a blunt instrument, and simply expects every nation in the rest of the world to accept its currency "at par" with their own. "Why? Because we're superior!"

You can throw-away your own Constitution's prohibition against, say, "bribery." You can allow a "privy council of nine eight kings" to enact laws for you by proclamation. (It is easier than trying to get six hundred people to agree on something ...) You can throw away your own prohibitions against slavery and involuntary servitude and "invite" people from afar to fulfill those roles. But, you do these things at your own peril, because you are forgetting the lessons of History.

"Every important lesson in History was written in Blood, and is re-written the same way."

We can earnestly hope that the American state will avoid great tumult, but we can never be sure of that. More likely, change will come from outside the country, as "other, older, much wiser" collections of people steer clear from the deadly shoals that the American nation knows not to avoid.

For instance: the USA can "wage endless war" because it can afford to do so, and "it can afford to do so" because every other nation accepts the US Dollar as "world reserve currency" even though only the American nation manufactures money in vast quantity. China, not the USA, is now the world's dominant manufacturing economy. Therefore, secure the Yuan as the reserve, and remove the Dollar. Like most other countries, who now have to exchange their currency for someone else's in order to buy things internationally, let the USA be subject to other bankers' exchange decisions while having no influence of its own.

This will have two immediate, positive influences. First: the USA will no longer be able to afford to try to be "a global empire." A ghastly pattern of war-mongering will thereby have its teeth pulled. Second: the cheapest source for America to obtain goods is ... in and from America. The short-term tumult in the USA will be extreme, but it will be like shoving cod-liver oil down the throat of a petulant child who desperately needs it.

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Old 06-06-2016, 11:51 AM   #12
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I don't live in a Fox News/AM talk radio bubble and I think Clinton should have gone to jail for Travelgate.
I am no fan of Hillary's and barely see a net plus with Bill's presidency (I do go back and forth around Zero with him/it) but jail time for TravelGate? In some ways I wish that all politicians were subject to investigation when some seem to be quite above the law, but Hillary's role in TravelGate was rather heavily investigated and found wanting for cause to be bound over to trial. Considering how many common people are convicted on flimsy or even non-existent evidence, I have to support the results of that investigation.

TravelGate

OTOH I am disgusted that Karl Rove and Dick Cheney have not been so investigated even for impropriety and in Cheney's case, possibly as a treasonous War Criminal.

As much as I dislike and disrespect Trump and find his lying rhetoric appalling, I am unaware of why he should be brought up on charges unless it would be for bilking bankruptcy all the while preaching violence against Pavlovian targets, including alleged welfare fraud.

It seems that the only time that politicians get investigated is when some Witch Hunt has been well funded, though I do wonder how Ford escaped something along the lines of "Obstruction of Justice".
 
Old 06-06-2016, 12:06 PM   #13
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Thanks for the link. At least such shameful defalcations are scrutable in your country.
 
Old 06-06-2016, 12:19 PM   #14
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I believe we should eliminate voting for "people" (not by people and still let us vote to get rid of them plus for policies,) they should get fired and hired like anyone else. Popularity, opinions and feelings w\don't do bash for us!

“If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal.”
― Emma Goldman

https://futuretom.wordpress.com/2010...u-should-vote/
 
Old 06-06-2016, 01:00 PM   #15
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