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Old 04-14-2006, 02:38 PM   #16
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There's quite a difference between what Microsoft promised Longhorn would be, and what they actually delivered. Basically, as far as I know, every single one of the significant new features got dropped-out. They've gotten themselves into the stock-market expectations that they will release a new system every two years, and, like IBM before them, they're serving Wall Street analysts more than their own customers.

I predict that "sales" of Vista will come from new-hardware sales where the system is bundled. Other users will pass.
I agree. Especially after they anounced that they are going to release a serious of updates for XP that will give several of the new features included in Vista, and to increace compatiability between the two.
 
Old 04-14-2006, 03:06 PM   #17
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IMO it's Windows XP Service pack 3 + DRM and media + new interface
That nicely sums up what I have gathered about Vista as well.
 
Old 04-15-2006, 09:13 AM   #18
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This article http://www.forbes.com/technology/200...microsoft.html
doesn't make me want to touch Vista. From what I've gathered from people I know who installed the beta, it's very much ram hungry, which makes me think it'll cause a lot of people who want to use it to have to upgrade their system. My other issue with it is the list of versions, do you really need that many version of an OS? From what I've seen of it so far, I wouldn't want to use it.
 
Old 04-15-2006, 01:44 PM   #19
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This article http://www.forbes.com/technology/200...microsoft.html
doesn't make me want to touch Vista. From what I've gathered from people I know who installed the beta, it's very much ram hungry, which makes me think it'll cause a lot of people who want to use it to have to upgrade their system. My other issue with it is the list of versions, do you really need that many version of an OS? From what I've seen of it so far, I wouldn't want to use it.
As far as Vista being Ram hungry, I wouldn't worry to much about that. Its very common for beta products, soft and hardware, to be sub-par performance wise.

As far as needing that many different versions of an OS, well I don't know if I can count all the different flavors of Linux. My guess though on a serious note is that the average user will probably never even encounter several of them. Especially the busniess ones, and the server editions.
 
Old 04-16-2006, 01:24 PM   #20
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Minimum requirements
A modern processor (CPU) P4/AMDAthalon


512MB or more of system memory (RAM), and


A DirectX 9 class graphics processor unit (GPU)
A bit of a resource hog, yes it will be..they also recommended a 'video card' and not onboard.
 
Old 04-16-2006, 01:48 PM   #21
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A bit of a resource hog, yes it will be..they also recommended a 'video card' and not onboard.
It's not like I'd recommend onboard video anyway. It's actually a step up for Microsoft not to be pushing for cheapo proprietary parts.
All I can really say is, remember how much of a resource hog Windows XP was when it first came out? "Resource hog" is only a relative term. I realize Microsoft is just trying to sneak DRM on to our systems, but if you don't like it, don't buy it.

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Old 04-17-2006, 05:21 PM   #22
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It's not like I'd recommend onboard video anyway..... I realize Microsoft is just trying to sneak DRM on to our systems, but if you don't like it, don't buy it.
Right? How many computers run fine on XP that will choke on Vista? Most OTB computers you buy right now run on on-board video and only come with 256mb of ram. Maybe a light version with a light Desktop for way less money, but I doubt MS would do something like that. Would be to 'Linux' like. But lets wait and see. It could happen.
 
Old 04-17-2006, 09:09 PM   #23
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Today I listened to a speech by Alan Cox that I recently downloaded. One of the comments or predictions that he made was that there would not be a rush to Windows Vista because most home users and offices were just going to stick with the systems that they are now using.
I already had Windows XP installed on my computer when I bought it. Its failures brought me to Linux. Vista may do the same for others.
 
Old 04-18-2006, 04:03 PM   #24
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As far as needing that many different versions of an OS, well I don't know if I can count all the different flavors of Linux. My guess though on a serious note is that the average user will probably never even encounter several of them. Especially the busniess ones, and the server editions.
Most isps don't support linux though, but they will support windows users, with that many versions, it'll be hell for them, ever tried asking a clueless user -which- version of windows they're running? You'll get answers like Outlook, Internet Explorer, Windows <year they bought the computer> etc so if you need an accurate version, it'll be fun. The difference with linux is that we're talking about different distributions, distributed by different people, we're not talking about 182937291837 versions of one OS made by the same people.

So far there's nothing about Vista that I even remotely find appealing, nothing at all, I'm still trying to find a use for the 3d window thing or whatever it is, the ability to flip windows around.
 
Old 04-18-2006, 09:45 PM   #25
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Most isps don't support linux though, but they will support windows users, with that many versions, it'll be hell for them, ever tried asking a clueless user -which- version of windows they're running?
The key word is "support." If you know the slightest bit about what you are doing, the ISP absolutely does not care what kind of computer or OS you are running: it's all just TCP/IP.

If you don't know what you are doing, then the ISP's technical support people will have a short script of walk-through questions concerning Windows. And I've never encountered any ISP that's seriously going to go out of their way to inform or to help the seriously clueless.
 
Old 04-23-2006, 12:58 AM   #26
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned DirectX 10 here. It's the only reason I'm keeping an eye on Vista developments. Given the direction most developers go when chosing a technology for a game, DX10 will probably dominate the market for a good while. I'll end up with Vista at some point, giving my strange addiction, but I'm almost certain I won't use it much beyond that.
 
Old 04-23-2006, 01:53 PM   #27
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hi guys have alook at this flash joke of windows it's called "windows realy good"

http://www.deanliou.com/WinRG/

please have a look just this once
 
Old 04-24-2006, 07:58 PM   #28
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That was funny, but only because I've actually experienced many of those problems before.
Which in turn makes that really sad.
 
Old 04-28-2006, 11:19 PM   #29
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I've ran some version of Vista(from late fall last year I think) on my 2 year old desktop (2.6 P4, 1GB, Radeon 9800 128mb), and it actually was fairy good performance wise. And the eye-candy was pretty cool. The beta's of Office 12(I think that was it), also had some nice eye candy. But I've yet to see or hear anything about Vista that has made me think, wow! this will make my life so much better. And then there's the fact that it refused to play with my Samba server, yeah I'm sure that was totally unintentional on Microsoft's part.

And thinking about stuff like this makes me realize why MS does so much to persuade/intimidate OEM's into always including the latest version of Windows on their desktops. Without that, how many Joe Sixpack's are going to go out and spend several hundred dollars on the [not-]new and [un-]improved version of Windows, and then go through the hassle of installing it or upgrading it.
 
Old 04-28-2006, 11:44 PM   #30
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That was funny, but only because I've actually experienced many of those problems before.
Which in turn makes that really sad.
I see what you mean, considering Windows 9x really was that bad. Seriously people, you've never truly experienced hell until you've used Windows 98...
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