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Old 06-29-2022, 09:55 AM   #16
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I meant sound driver, once windows 7 is installed?

When I had the problems on XP over ten years ago, more than eleven years ago and so on, I needed to install a graphics card driver, sound driver.

There is no restore point or would've of been one because the Amazon buyer didn't setup one up, but it wasn't needed, since this is the first in six years something went wrong with the system on the drive.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 10:05 AM   #17
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Windows 10 would find a driver through the updates, I'm not sure about Windows 7. But from the Device Manager you can find what sound card or chip you have and also the graphics one. Then you need to search and if possible find the drivers from some website. There could be drivers still listed in the Dell website, search is your friend.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 10:19 AM   #18
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If an old computer its shutting down cuz its hot (cuz CPU hits 100C) its usually cuz the thermal paste between the cpu and heat sink needs to be replaced.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 09:13 PM   #19
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The shut down didn't happen on the linux section of the drive I tried a few days ago, when transferring files from the windows 7 section.

I know when it shut down due to over heating a few times, but the lights wouldn't be indicating, so it was a windows 7 problem.

So yes, for example, when I intentionally did a restart for the Dimension 4600, it has service pack 1, so no service pack 2, which was available via updates through microsoft.

So with 7 now out of support over two years, are the updates available for it, the disc would install service pack 1, but that would be from late 2009, not even that far after launch. The disc has a 2011 copyright, so could it be that it has some updates that were released after. Windows 7, only ever had service pack 1, it was built on vista, and XP. It needed too much security updates.

But sure, I think the driver for the graphics on the optiplex was Q something, now I don't even know.
 
Old 06-29-2022, 11:26 PM   #20
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There are still drivers available https://www.dell.com/support/home/en...ex-780/drivers

If not enough, https://www.google.com/search?q=dell...client=gws-wiz

Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (there is no Service Pack 2) https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...6-bab972897f61
 
Old 06-30-2022, 09:21 AM   #21
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I've got a copy of the audio, and video driver. So that should be that for the hardware.

As for windows 7, yes service pack 1 was the only component for it, but after there have been some updates for windows 7, smaller files, so considering with windows xp service pack 1, there is no web access available for it, due to no further updates. I couldn't do even using Internet Explorer 6 to visit a few websites.

I shouldn't face any problem with just windows 7 and the service pack 1, the updates after aren't important to stop any software use or web use. That was what I was wondering.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 11:53 AM   #22
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I installed a new copy of 7, the key doesn't work, and even if it did, I couldn't connect to the wireless network. I tried the password a number of times, it stated couldn't connect to the network.

Could the key work for the drive that came with the computer? There is no guarantee it would.

The good news is the system is installed, so the drive isn't useless as it was before. I only have one windows 7 system I can use, which is the HP, the other drive has the 7 and linux, so I wouldn't want to mess with that drive just in case something packed up with the HP, that has a laptop small hard drive, nothing like the standard older ones I have or what is on sale now. I doubt anything would happen, used so little.

I was lucky with the hardware and software problems for so long, if this happened many times, second hand systems aren't worth it, end up pretty short changed for access.

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Old 06-30-2022, 12:41 PM   #23
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If you have installed a different version of the key it will not accept it. For example if you have a Home edition key and installed the Professional edition.

Are the drivers of the network card loaded? Look in the Device Manager.

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Old 06-30-2022, 12:54 PM   #24
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I had a work laptop that was fast, came with Win7 Pro, and ran very well. The video system was not compatible with Win10! There was no way I could maintain it in a currently supported Windows version, so I converted it to a Linux only machine, then ran Windows under VirtualBox. I now run windows under QEMU only, and only for a few events on rare occasion. Linux does all I need, and a whole lot I really do not.
 
Old 06-30-2022, 01:31 PM   #25
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The windows 7 has all that installed, I didn't even need to install the sound, there was a sound icon too, the wireless software is already available on windows 7, just an adapter needs to be connected to the computer. That was already connected.

The code is on the top of the computer, so it could be that one is for the drive that was loaded with it. But even windows 7 there wouldn't run, so only linux as I mentioned does.

I have always been a windows user, so XP and 7 do what I need. Linux works differently, so it isn't as useful in that sense, and the software, I just prefer to have everything all in one.

I could try and install the game I had on the 7 see if it works, but yes that has been a disappointment. I could try some web keys, there are a number of web pages with free ones available, they are probably all been used.

For windows on the drive, I guess that is pretty much that. What happens if I don't get the key sorted, and eventually I can use the web? No updates, and I don't know what else could happen.

I am thinking looking ahead, if I purchase a Dell optiplex with windows 10, could I end up with this same situation? I'd need an optiplex 3010 or something, 7010 or 20, some older computers, but less than ten years old.
 
Old 07-02-2022, 12:53 PM   #26
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I tried again on the old drive to logon to the wireless network, but no change.

I have placed some of my files on the drive, installed Office 2007. Installed the game, and that is running fine.

As for the linux drive with windows 7, 7 doesn't load, I was looking at, expanding the size for the linux side, since, I can't use windows 7 on it, just for ease, and I doubt I'd need to use linux again, but I have kept it just incase.
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Old 07-30-2022, 06:02 PM   #27
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The boot problem has happened again, I only installed one game on the windows 7, it doesn't have a key. So it states not genuine in the right corner.

Other than a slight graphics slip or the lack of the sound being on, as there wasn't a headphone connection.

I didn't expect this problem to occur again. Hmm.

I don't have a windows key. The only option would be to try the drive the computer had with it originally. And try the key on the computer it has. I did try that originally with the new install. So it may not work. I don't have much to lose other than an older copy of linux on that drive. So I'd use the older drive, for a copy of lite. I don't really need it, but it saved the moment last month.
 
Old 07-31-2022, 10:02 PM   #28
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Since you've found Linux to continue to reliably boot on that machine, might I suggest you add an entry in your Linux Bootloader to boot Win 7? Either Grub or LILO should work a treat, but even other more universal bootloaders can work similarly, even from floppy, CD/DVD, or USB. You don't have to rely on Windows Bootloader (NTLDR?) which is finicky and apparently has caused you some problems.

Incidentally Microsoft not only no longer supports Win7 but they are actively working to kill it off. One only has to read the Win 10 EULA to see what's in it for MS to destroy what may well have been their best OS.
 
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Incidentally Microsoft not only no longer supports Win7 but they are actively working to kill it off. One only has to read the Win 10 EULA to see what's in it for MS to destroy what may well have been their best OS.
Care to briefly elaborate on that? People will hardly read the windows 10 EULA just to satisfy their curiosity. We'll leave that to you .
 
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Incidentally Microsoft not only no longer supports Win7 but they are actively working to kill it off. One only has to read the Win 10 EULA to see what's in it for MS to destroy what may well have been their best OS.


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Care to briefly elaborate on that? People will hardly read the windows 10 EULA just to satisfy their curiosity. We'll leave that to you .
The massive profit from data mining, especially because it hit's your banking account continuously instead of a big spike with a new release that soon begins to evaporate, has made the strong case to any business that can somehow jump on the bandwagon.

The Win 10 EULA has users sign away any rights to privacy. MS reserves the right to view any data on their OpSys that you lease, not own. It doesn't matter if you encrypt your drive since MS has access to the key. MS is all in on data mining, thus the "Win 10 is FREE!" and Win 10 is "the last Windows ever" baloney.
 
  


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