LinuxQuestions.org
Review your favorite Linux distribution.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
Password
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 12-28-2013, 05:28 PM   #1
maples
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2013
Location: IN, USA
Distribution: Arch, Debian Jessie
Posts: 814

Rep: Reputation: 265Reputation: 265Reputation: 265
Win8/8.1: 100% disk I/O makes Dell laptop extremely unstable


For Christmas one of my uncles got me a Dell Inspiron 15R laptop. It has a 1 TB hard drive, an i5 processor, and 8 GB of RAM.

Ever since I set it up, it has been plagued with 100% hard drive access (according to the Task Manager. I've confirmed with the light being on solid). At some points it gets so bad that the entire system becomes unresponsive, and the only thing that I can do is move the mouse. I've Googled it, and what I've found so far hasn't helped. I disabled Windows Update, adjusted the swap file (I can't remember the Windows term ), and checked the Windows Search index size (it was about 70-75 MB). After a reboot, I still have the problem.

It seems to come and go of its own accord. I've tried listing the processes (in Task Manager) by the most disk I/O, and most of the time the top process is using "0.1 MB/sec." It came with McAfee pre-installed, so I ran a full system scan. While it was running, I kept an eye on the Task Manager. Most of the time, the McAfee process was reading around 10-20 MB/sec. However, I saw it spike once or twice to 40-45 MB/sec, proving that my drive is capable of at least that speed. The whole time that the scan was running, the disk usage was 100%.

Thanks!
 
Old 12-28-2013, 08:04 PM   #2
Habitual
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Abingdon, VA
Distribution: Catalina
Posts: 9,374
Blog Entries: 37

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
The very first thing I ever did with pre-installed Windows is re-install.
Run a chkdisk?
 
Old 12-28-2013, 09:48 PM   #3
maples
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2013
Location: IN, USA
Distribution: Arch, Debian Jessie
Posts: 814

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 265Reputation: 265Reputation: 265
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitual View Post
The very first thing I ever did with pre-installed Windows is re-install.
Not a bad idea...don't think I'll do it though

Quote:
Originally Posted by Habitual View Post
Run a chkdisk?
Sure, here's the results. From what I can see, the hard drive's fine.

Code:
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is OS.

WARNING!  F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...

[CUT OUT PROGRESS INDICATORS]

  284672 file records processed.                                                        

File verification completed.
Progress: 1522 of 1522 done; Stage: 100%; Total: 29%; ETA:   0:00:17 .. 


  1522 large file records processed.                                   

Progress: 0 of 0 done; Stage: 99%; Total: 29%; ETA:   0:00:17 ...
                                                                                       
                                                                                       
  0 bad file records processed.                                     


Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...


[CUT OUT PROGRESS INDICATORS]
                                                                                       
  334826 index entries processed.                                                       

Index verification completed.
Progress: 0 of 0 done; Stage: 99%; Total: 79%; ETA:   0:00:12    
                                                                                       
                                                                                       
  0 unindexed files scanned.                                        

Progress: 0 of 0 done; Stage: 99%; Total: 79%; ETA:   0:00:12 .  
                                                                                       
                                                                                       
  0 unindexed files recovered.                                      


Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
Security descriptor verification completed.
Progress: 3 of 3 done; Stage: 100%; Total: 99%; ETA:   0:00:00 .. 
                                                                                       
                                                                                       
  25078 data files processed.                                           

CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
Progress: 0 of 4930 done; Stage:  0%; Total: 99%; ETA:   0:00:00 ...
Progress: 2434 of 4930 done; Stage: 49%; Total: 94%; ETA:   0:00:01    
Progress: 4930 of 4930 done; Stage: 100%; Total: 96%; ETA:   0:00:01 .  
                                                                                       
                                                                                       
  40388880 USN bytes processed.                                                           

Usn Journal verification completed.

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.

 962396159 KB total disk space.
  62178844 KB in 100059 files.
     67052 KB in 25079 indexes.
         0 KB in bad sectors.
    421371 KB in use by the system.
     65536 KB occupied by the log file.
 899728892 KB available on disk.

      4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
 240599039 total allocation units on disk.
 224932223 allocation units available on disk.

I ran across a Microsoft forum (if such a thing truly exists) and found a suggestion to defrag the disk. My original reaction was to laugh. It's a brand-new laptop, right? Installed a few programs (Notepad++, Paint.NET, IMGburn, etc), upgraded to 8.1, and copied pictures from my old laptop. Theoretically, there should be absolutely zero need to defragment the disk. To my surprise, it helped a LOT. I still get the usage spikes, but they are less frequent, shorter, and Task Manager (usually) can identify the process that's doing it. The boot time even improved.

Thanks for your time! If you have any other ideas, I'm open to suggestions.
 
Old 01-02-2014, 04:25 PM   #4
rob.rice
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Distribution: slack what ever
Posts: 1,076

Rep: Reputation: 205Reputation: 205Reputation: 205
Tack It Back To The Store It Came From
it's not on you to fix something broken that's new out of the box
OR
send it back to Dell let them fix it

Dell may or may not save your data
 
Old 01-02-2014, 04:57 PM   #5
John VV
LQ Muse
 
Registered: Aug 2005
Location: A2 area Mi.
Posts: 17,624

Rep: Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651Reputation: 2651
you have uninstalled the thousands of "crapware" "free trials" and "Ad ware " that cam pre installed ?

and have you turned off the disk file indexing
if you know where you saved things then you do not need to search for them

that right there should solve most things

then there is the system registry . That is going to be a royal mess to clean up the few hundred "crapware " company's that are calling home on boot .

the best option for that is to use a windows 8.1 install dvd and reinstall
( one of the MAIN uses for the MS System Registry IS TO HIDE these things and hide the for pay program "paid for " licenses ok's )
 
Old 01-22-2014, 10:43 AM   #6
buccaneere
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 213

Rep: Reputation: 16
I got 2 of those Dell 17R's; one W7, one W8. I like the speed with which they boot.

Too much to list, about 'don't likes'. UEFI, Win*, no ext2/3 fs access, etc., ...

The W8 machine I use for ONE thing - datalogging on one of '90's cars' Engine Control Module. It's worthless otherwise.
 
Old 01-22-2014, 02:59 PM   #7
Habitual
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Abingdon, VA
Distribution: Catalina
Posts: 9,374
Blog Entries: 37

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by John VV View Post
you have uninstalled the thousands of "crapware" "free trials" and "Ad ware " that cam pre installed ?
Shovel-ware? Oh noes...

That's 2 "re-installs" and Microsoft 0
 
Old 01-23-2014, 05:45 PM   #8
maples
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2013
Location: IN, USA
Distribution: Arch, Debian Jessie
Posts: 814

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 265Reputation: 265Reputation: 265
I finally broke down and called Dell Help and Support. After they ran "Dell Click-2-Fix", restored it to a factory image, and ran a self-diagnostic (that came up "All passes!", btw) they determined that it was a bad hard drive. Which proves that their "self-diagnostic" is completely worthless.

A friend at school was having the same problem on a Win7 install, they discovered their HDD is bad, too...
 
Old 01-23-2014, 06:35 PM   #9
Habitual
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Jan 2011
Location: Abingdon, VA
Distribution: Catalina
Posts: 9,374
Blog Entries: 37

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Quote:
Originally Posted by maples View Post
I finally broke down and called Dell Help and Support. After they ran "Dell Click-2-Fix", restored it to a factory image, and ran a self-diagnostic (that came up "All passes!", btw) they determined that it was a bad hard drive. Which proves that their "self-diagnostic" is completely worthless.

A friend at school was having the same problem on a Win7 install, they discovered their HDD is bad, too...
I believe Dell ownership is transferable, so if it's under warranty, you can get a new HD!

Used to be "in possession of" was proof of ownership...Things may have changed.
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
UEFI laptop with Win8, installed Fedora 19 in classic mode, now cannot start Windows rinser Linux - Laptop and Netbook 3 11-22-2013 02:38 AM
dual boot win8 and centos 6.3 on laptop p kumar Linux - Laptop and Netbook 3 09-02-2013 01:50 PM
Installed Ubuntu on Win8 laptop - but only MBR works, GPT does not...? JaSauders Linux - Hardware 2 04-23-2013 02:58 PM
Cursor theme makes KDE unstable Txabuzer Ubuntu 0 10-30-2006 05:41 PM
NVIDIA Driver makes OpenGL Apps Unstable lasindi Linux - Software 7 11-12-2004 10:22 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:50 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration