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Old 03-28-2010, 03:16 PM   #1
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WikiLeaks to release video of civilians, journalists being murdered on April 5


http://rawstory.com/2010/03/wikileak...red-airstrike/

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Whistleblower Web site WikiLeaks is planning to release a video that reveals what it's calling a Pentagon "cover-up" of an incident in which numerous civilians and journalists were murdered in an airstrike, according to a recent media advisory.

The video will be released on April 5 at the National Press Club, the group said.

They also noted their members have recently been tailed by individuals under State Department diplomatic immunity, and that "one related person was detained for 22 hours" while authorities seized computer equipment.

In a video released Friday, a Russia Today broadcast discusses the pending release of the video WikiLeaks first announced in a tweet on Feb. 20, 2010, which read: "Finally cracked the encryption to US military video in which journalists, among others, are shot. Thanks to all who donated $/CPUs."
Make sure to get your copy, and I hope this goes viral, so everyone can see what war is really about.

Remember April 5, Wikileaks.org.
 
Old 03-28-2010, 03:19 PM   #2
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Wait, so what happened on April 5th? What year did this incident occur? I'm confused.
 
Old 03-29-2010, 04:49 AM   #3
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I don't know when it happened, but the video is released on Apr 5
 
Old 03-29-2010, 08:06 AM   #4
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Make sure to get your copy, and I hope this goes viral, so everyone can see what war is really about.
War is about people not having the least respect for Human Life, and being willing commit murder on a mass scale, which is BAD, and Dishonorable

but War is also about people wanting to decide their future, and keeping their way of Life against the Tyranny of external opressors, which is GOOD, and Honorable...

Japanese occupation of China was BAD, because it was solely dictated by Economic and geo Strategic interests, against the will of a millenary nation-state, but Japanese annexation of Manchukuo was GOOD, it all depends on the acceptance that the people/country that is to be occupied has about the invader...

People from Manchuria always resented the Imperial Centralism of Qing Chinese, so they saw the annexation by the Japanese as a step to the Sphere of Asian Co-Prosperity, led by the Empire of Japan... and away from a corrupted China sold to the interests of Western Powers...

American annexation of regions formerly inhabitated by Native American Indians was BAD, they resisted because they were led to starvation, famine, and disease...

but American War against Nazi Germany was GOOD, because Nazi Germany's war was not an Economic War, it was a War against Man, against a selected group percieved as inferior, that was deemed to be terminated in the Conference of Wansee.

... this is all the subjectivity involved in what war is really about... is is GOOD and BAD, IMHO...

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Old 03-29-2010, 09:43 AM   #5
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Murdered, or killed? Murder is a specific intent crime, and murdering a journalist sounds like he was killed because it was known that he was a journalist and killed for being one. Rather different from killing someone, and finding out later that he happened to be a journalist.

So were they killed because they were journalists? Or were they killed because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time?
 
Old 03-29-2010, 11:17 AM   #6
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I don't know, but I hope it's as good as they say.
 
Old 03-29-2010, 12:14 PM   #7
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Well...I dont ~exactly~ like watching people get killed but...I will download anyway as i hate the goverment.
 
Old 03-29-2010, 02:08 PM   #8
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War, as I've observed, is analogous to a vicious response from something you're agitating.


A man and his friend's dog.

you hereby denotes any individual, anywhere, at any point in time.


On your first encounter with the dog, you're indifferent (don't have to be, but for the most illuminating example, you are) to the dog, and the dog is curious as to who you might be.(doesn't have to be, but for the most illuminating example, the dog is lazy and trusting initially)

Whereas you're an explorer, just wandering around (whether it be with goal in mind, or not), and you happen to stumble into the dog's home. Naturally, if the roles were reversed, and a dog, while wandering, stumbled into your home -- I dare say you'd be curious just as to how that sucker got in, and whether or not he has mud on his feet.

Assuming the first encounter passes without incident, then things have a good chance of being alright between you and the dog, and you should be able to coexist in the dog's house (or perhaps your house, at some point?) without incident Always be weary of the dog, though.. Sometimes animals go crazy.

What then, if the relationship between you and the dog sours over time? What if, upon contact with the dog, he all of a sudden decided to pee on you, attack you while you're eating, and steal your food, knock you down, etc etc, to the point existing was far more troublesome than necessary? You really don't know why he's being mean (though it could be because you've usurped his throne, ruined his routines, or whatever), he's still cool with you, right?

You and the dog are both right, but about different things.

What you've got to do is beat that dog to win.
What that dog has to do, is beat you to win.


Well, imagine war then, as being hundreds of millions of dogs that all live together in a very particular way, that could so easily disintegrate into absolute chaos that ABSOLUTE ORDER must be maintained at all times, and even then, it's pretty rough out there. And the same for the people a short distance away.


What then, if millions of dogs started peeing on millions of people, attacking them as food, because they have the numbers to do that, and so on?


Drop the nuke, send in hundreds of thousands of people with a bunch of freezers to package all the corpses, and send em back to the mainland as dinner.


Not all Dogs are evil, but no dog is worth the life of a person.


Lately, though, war is more about -

Most Dogs aren't evil, but they're in my way and my or our success is the only concern.


NOTE: "our success is the only concern." is the most likely cause of unimaginable accidents(or not accidents), and describes what I expect to see in the video. Sometimes the success mandates that people who really don't need to get shot -- get shot.

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Old 03-29-2010, 02:50 PM   #9
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A dog implies hierarchy, and that is why wars happen, because people are dogs, but I am not a dog, I will not go to war.

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Well...I dont ~exactly~ like watching people get killed but...I will download anyway as i hate the goverment.
Download them because you could be next...
 
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It looks like it has been released + additional info:

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WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff. Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded. For further information please visit the special project website www.collateralmurder.com.
http://www.collateralmurder.com/

short version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0

mp4: http://youtube.com/get_video?video_i...J3nf-w=&fmt=18

long version (for research purposes ?):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is9sxRfU-ik

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Old 04-05-2010, 03:52 PM   #11
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I just watched that video.


I wonder how much lower can worldwide opinion of the US go?
 
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Not the time right now.
 
Old 04-05-2010, 04:00 PM   #13
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I wonder how much lower can worldwide opinion of the US go?
Yes, but what is worse still, is that the only reason they got this video is because 2 Reuters staff got killed. Otherwise if it were just civilians, I'm sure they wouldn't bother and accept the "collateral" as normal, and even a bit of fun.
 
Old 04-05-2010, 05:16 PM   #14
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Well clearly in the video the pilots seemed like they were having 'fun'. Almost as if they were playing a videogame.
 
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Just watched it.
The military is stupid and awful.
 
  


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