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Old 04-13-2017, 06:47 PM   #106
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Oh, I suspect that they did secure it. It's nonsensical for a buck-soldier in a war zone to have "video footage" of any kind.

Basically, to me, a lot of the "tantalizing premises" at work here cause my bozo-bit to flip. It does not ring true. Irresistibly tantalizing though it might appear to be, I openly suspect that "this is a new and unique form of deception." People are not questioning it, only because they don't want to believe that it might not be everything that it purports to be.
Well it seems that those in the gov. have a rather schizophrenic view of wikileaks:

H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: CIA VOWS TO SILENCE WIKILEAKS AS "NON-STATE INTEL SERVICE"
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Published on Apr 13, 2017

CIA vows to silence 'non-state intelligence service' @WikiLeaks over #Vault7
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/852646452320972800
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/852635708892356610
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/852631445369745409
That last link is interesting, is it not?


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https://www.rt.com/usa/384667-cia-as...aks-critisize/

WikiLeaks 'hostile intel,' Assange & his followers 'demons': CIA chief goes rogue

CIA Director Mike Pompeo called Julian Assange and his associates “demons” and accused WikiLeaks of siding with the world’s dictators and endangering the security of the “free world” with the help of states like Russia.
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The deleted tweet by Pompeo - archived on archive.is , whoopsie

http://archive.is/p0ij6

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Old 04-13-2017, 08:11 PM   #107
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CIA Director Mike Pompeo called Julian Assange and his associates “demons” and accused WikiLeaks of siding with the world’s dictators and endangering the security of the “free world” with the help of states like Russia.
Politics as usual, I think. Complete with an obligatory reference to America's "cold-war boogerman of fifty(!) years ago.

(Yeah, yeah, yeah ... "the free world" ... versus (of course, of course ...) (specifically...) "Russia.™")

This being what's-left-of "the USSR™," and therefore a never-to-be-questioned "complete stand-in for it," complete with (if necessary ...) a Breschnev's shoe-banging, just to remind us that "nothing has changed, and nothing ever will, because they are The Russians.™" (Hey, "they speak Russian, don't they?" What more evidence do you need, "you probably-commie-pinko who dares(!) to disagee with me?")

Yes, it does seem to me that the director(!) of a critically-important US Government agency seems very content to overlook the obvious fact that it is the responsibility of "all(!) agencies of the US Government"... specifically including his ... to make damn sure that the gross security breaches(!), which purportedly feed these people, cannot happen.

And especially, "no matter what(!) happened," that they cannot today continue.

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"Hey, it's your information, isn't it?!" Are you not "the(!)(!!)(!!!) ... the-buck-stops-here ... person" whom The People Of The United States™ duly entrusted with it?
After all: "If the information in question truly is authentic, then Julian is merely the reporter... of your massive fsck-up..."

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Old 04-13-2017, 09:20 PM   #108
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Politics as usual, I think. Complete with an obligatory reference to America's "cold-war boogerman of fifty(!) years ago.

(Yeah, yeah, yeah ... "the free world" ... versus (of course, of course ...) (specifically...) "Russia.™")

This being what's-left-of "the USSR™," and therefore a never-to-be-questioned "complete stand-in for it," complete with (if necessary ...) a Breschnev's shoe-banging, just to remind us that "nothing has changed, and nothing ever will, because they are The Russians.™" (Hey, "they speak Russian, don't they?" What more evidence do you need, "you probably-commie-pinko who dares(!) to disagee with me?")

Yes, it does seem to me that the director(!) of a critically-important US Government agency seems very content to overlook the obvious fact that it is the responsibility of "all(!) agencies of the US Government"... specifically including his ... to make damn sure that the gross security breaches(!), which purportedly feed these people, cannot happen.

And especially, "no matter what(!) happened," that they cannot today continue.

After all: "If the information in question truly is authentic, then Julian is merely the reporter... of your massive fsck-up..."
So, then I suppose even by your own last statement then you implicitly attribute validity to wikileaks?
 
Old 04-13-2017, 11:18 PM   #109
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H.A. Goodman - CIA CHIEF USED WIKILEAKS EMAILS TO HELP TRUMP DURING ELECTION: Mike Pompeo Shared DNC Emails
 
Old 04-14-2017, 08:02 AM   #110
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So, then I suppose even by your own last statement then you implicitly attribute validity to wikileaks?
Not particularly, no.

There's too much information, from too broad of a range of departments within the government, and at too high of a level. Top secret messages by the Secretary of State wind up on public SMTP servers without a scrap of encryption. DVDs wind up in the hands of soldiers in battlefields. We are to believe that the entire information-security apparatus of the US Government has been reduced to a large storage tank whose bottom has been removed, and that no one can or will do anything about it.

I'm certain that there are some as-yet un-caught traitors – President Trump made a supposedly-scrambled phone call to another Head of State and read a transcript next morning in the newspapers – and some low-grade material might have been salted into these "leaks" to add to the perception of authenticity. But no, by and large, I believe that the majority of my colleagues in government information security are not traitors to their country; quite the opposite. Therefore, I find WikiLeaks to be "not a credible source." "Too good, and too big and too improbably all-encompassing, to in fact be true."

"Top Secret" messages told Hitler to expect invasion at the Pas de Calais: that Normandy was merely a feint. "Top Secret" messages told them that Sicily would not be invaded. A key characteristic of these messages was that they reinforced what the recipients wanted to believe. WikiLeaks fairly spews material which paints more-or-less a single and very scatological picture of the insides of the US Government. Irresistible to someone who is told, "psst, wanna know a secret?"

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Old 04-14-2017, 10:23 AM   #111
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Not particularly, no.

There's too much information, from too broad of a range of departments within the government, and at too high of a level. Top secret messages by the Secretary of State wind up on public SMTP servers without a scrap of encryption. DVDs wind up in the hands of soldiers in battlefields. We are to believe that the entire information-security apparatus of the US Government has been reduced to a large storage tank whose bottom has been removed, and that no one can or will do anything about it.

I'm certain that there are some as-yet un-caught traitors – President Trump made a supposedly-scrambled phone call to another Head of State and read a transcript next morning in the newspapers – and some low-grade material might have been salted into these "leaks" to add to the perception of authenticity. But no, by and large, I believe that the majority of my colleagues in government information security are not traitors to their country; quite the opposite. Therefore, I find WikiLeaks to be "not a credible source." "Too good, and too big and too improbably all-encompassing, to in fact be true."

"Top Secret" messages told Hitler to expect invasion at the Pas de Calais: that Normandy was merely a feint. "Top Secret" messages told them that Sicily would not be invaded. A key characteristic of these messages was that they reinforced what the recipients wanted to believe. WikiLeaks fairly spews material which paints more-or-less a single and very scatological picture of the insides of the US Government. Irresistible to someone who is told, "psst, wanna know a secret?"
I think this former FBI agent might disagree with you:

RT - CIA chief Pompeo now is distracting us by vilifying WikiLeaks & Assange – fmr FBI agent
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Published on Apr 13, 2017

CIA Director Mike Pompeo called Julian Assange and his associates “demons,” accused WikiLeaks of siding with the world’s dictators and endangering the security of the “free world” with the help of states like Russia.
Coleen Rowley, a former FBI agent and whistleblower, shares her thoughts on the matter with RT.
...


RT - Assange & his followers are demons, WikiLeaks is non-state hostile intel service - CIA chief
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Published on Apr 14, 2017

CIA Director Mike Pompeo called Julian Assange and his associates “demons” and accused WikiLeaks of siding with the world’s dictators and endangering the security of the “free world” with the help of states like Russia.
 
Old 04-14-2017, 10:28 AM   #112
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Post Vault 7 - Hive

Latest from Vault 7 now - Hive:

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https://wikileaks.org/vault7/#Hive

Today, April 14th 2017, WikiLeaks publishes six documents from the CIA's HIVE project created by its "Embedded Development Branch"(EDB)

HIVE is a back-end infrastructure malware with a public-facing HTTPS interface which is used by CIA implants to transfer exfiltrated information from target machines to the CIA and to receive commands from its operators to execute specific tasks on the targets. HIVE is used across multiple malware implants and CIA operations. The public HTTPS interface utilizes unsuspicious-looking cover domains to hide its presence.
 
Old 04-14-2017, 12:18 PM   #113
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H.A. Goodman - CNN JAKE TAPPER DEFENDS WIKILEAKS: Trump and CIA Pompeo Cited WikiLeaks Against Clinton
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Published on Apr 14, 2017

6 months later his CIA director would call WikiLeaks
https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...50449547919360
H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS: CIA BUILT AFGHANISTAN TUNNELS TARGETED BY TRUMP. Moab Dropped On CIA Tunnels
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Published on Apr 14, 2017

Those tunnels the U.S is bombing in Afghanistan? They were built by the CIA
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/852681705391521792
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http://archive.is/j8lS8

Lost at Tora Bora

Well past midnight one morning in early December 2001, according to American intelligence officials, Osama bin Laden sat with a group of top aides -- including members of his elite international 055 Brigade -- in the mountainous redoubt of Tora Bora in eastern Afghanistan. Outside, it was blustery and bitterly cold; many of the passes of the White Mountains, of which Tora Bora forms a part, were already blocked by snow. But inside the cave complex, where bin Laden had sought his final refuge from the American war in Afghanistan -- a war in which Washington, that October, had struck back for the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks -- bin Laden munched on olives and sipped sugary mint tea. He was dressed in his signature camouflage jacket, and a Kalashnikov rested by his side. Captured Qaeda fighters, interviewed separately, told American interrogators that they recalled an address that bin Laden had made to his followers shortly before dawn. It concerned martyrdom. American bombs, including a 15,000-pound "daisy cutter," were raining from the sky and pulverizing a number of the Tora Bora caves. And yet, one American intelligence official told me recently, if any one thing distinguished Osama bin Laden on that cold December day, it was the fact that the 44-year-old Saudi multimillionaire appeared to be supremely confident.

The first time bin Laden had seen the Tora Bora caves, he had been a young mujahedeen fighter and a recent university graduate with a degree in civil engineering. It had been some 20 years before, during Washington's first Afghan war, the decade-long, C.I.A.-financed jihad of the 1980's against the Soviet occupation. Rising to more than 13,000 feet, 35 miles southwest of the provincial capital of Jalalabad, Tora Bora was a fortress of snow-capped peaks, steep valleys and fortified caves. Its miles of tunnels, bunkers and base camps, dug deeply into the steep rock walls, had been part of a C.I.A.-financed complex built for the mujahedeen. Bin Laden had flown in dozens of bulldozers and other pieces of heavy equipment from his father's construction empire, the Saudi Binladin Group, one of the most prosperous construction companies in Saudi Arabia and throughout the Persian Gulf. According to one frequently told story, bin Laden would drive one of the bulldozers himself across the precipitous mountain peaks, constructing defensive tunnels and storage depots.

...

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Old 04-14-2017, 01:25 PM   #114
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The Humanist Report - Noam Chomsky Denounces Democrats’ Russian Hysteria—“It is a Joke”
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Published on Apr 13, 2017

In a political climate where anyone that questions the Democrats' anti-Russian rhetoric—and denounces their hysteria over the so-called "election hack"—is quickly labeled as a Kremlin shill or Russian apologist of sorts, there's one scholar that's willing to be objective on the matter. Noam Chomsky recently discussed this topic and stated how he believes the Democrats' Russian hysteria is a "joke" that is hypocritically propagated by a country that has interfered in countless elections of other countries. He also discusses the need to deescalate tensions between the U.S. and Russia, and how Democrats' behavior is making the U.S. the "laughing stock" of the world. Once again, Chomsky is absolutely correct, and proves to be a voice of reason.

Watch the Full Clip Here: https://www.democracynow.org/2017/4/...ld_is_laughing
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H.A. Goodman - CNN: TRUMP ASSOCIATES SPOKE TO RUSSIANS BEFORE ELECTION. FBI Shared Comey Letter Instead
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Published on Apr 14, 2017

British intelligence passed Trump associates' communications with Russians on to US counterparts
H.A. Goodman - CIA MIKE POMPEO CALLS WIKILEAKS THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY: Pompeo Used WikiLeaks DNC Emails
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Published on Apr 14, 2017

CIA Director Pompeo denounces Wikileaks, forgets he used them to attack Hillary Clinton
https://thinkprogress.org/pompeo-wik...a-9756f59b09af

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Old 04-14-2017, 10:15 PM   #115
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H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS STATEMENT RESPONDING TO CIA DIRECTOR MIKE POMPEO REGARDING FIRST AMENDMENT
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Published on Apr 14, 2017

WikiLeaks statement responding to #CIA Director Mike #Pompeo #Vault7
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/853014677529538560
 
Old 04-15-2017, 02:05 PM   #116
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H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS: ROGER STONE DEFENDS WIKILEAKS CALLS FOR CIA POMPEO TO RESIGN
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Published on Apr 15, 2017

Source claims 'concrete' evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russia
https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...ssia/22041057/

Roger Stone: CIA Director Mike Pompeo should resign after ripping WikiLeaks
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ro...rticle/2620368
H.A. Goodman - OBAMA WIRETAPPED TRUMP WITH BRITISH SPIES GCHQ: Judge Napolitano Was Right On GCHQ
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Published on Apr 15, 2017

Who is Andrew Napolitano, legal analyst who first claimed GCHQ was asked to wiretap Trump Towers?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...asked-wiretap/

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Old 04-15-2017, 03:03 PM   #117
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A New McCarthyism: Julian Assange Accuses Democrats of Blaming Russia & WikiLeaks for Clinton Loss
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http://democracynow.org - As President Trump’s presidency nears its first 100 days, Trump and his campaign are facing multiple investigations over whether the campaign colluded with Russian officials to influence the 2016 presidential election. In a Democracy Now! exclusive, we speak with a man who has been at the center of much discussion of Russian election meddling: Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks.

Just before the Democratic National Convention last July, WikiLeaks published 20,000 internal emails from the Democratic National Committee. Then, between October 7 and Election Day, WikiLeaks would go on to publish 20,000 of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s emails, generating a rash of negative stories about the Clinton campaign. Intelligence agencies have pinned the email hacking on Russians. WikiLeaks maintains Russia was not the source of the documents.

For more, we speak with Julian Assange from the Ecuadorean Embassy in London.
 
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H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: President Trump and CIA Mike Pompeo Loved WikiLeaks During 2016 Election
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Published on Apr 15, 2017

Very little pick-up by the dishonest media of incredible information provided by WikiLeaks. So dishonest! Rigged system!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...01435486781440
H.A. Goodman - WIKILEAKS JULIAN ASSANGE CITES JAMES CLAPPER STATING NO EVIDENCE EXISTS LINKING RUSSIA TO WIKILEAKS
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He states nothing of the sort. Obama, Comey, Clapper (latter two under oath) also state that such claims are untrue.
https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/st...48404717662208
 
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RT - NSA was allegedly hacked, loses financial hacking arsenal to the Dark Web
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Hacking group Shadow Brokers released a data dump allegedly stolen from NSA that details the agency’s ability to hack international banks, SWIFT network, via Windows PCs and servers used in global financial transfers.
Pierluigi Paganini, Head of cybersecurity services, Grant Thornton, shares his thoughts on the issue with RT.
 
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RT - War of Words: Assange fires back at new CIA chief over WikiLeaks ‘demon’ comment
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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has hit back at the new CIA director after he called for a crackdown on the whistleblower group.
 
  


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