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Old 03-14-2005, 08:09 PM   #136
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look, if longhorn comes out early and totally rocks, would any of you buy it? even if it was $10?
Not a chance

Just look at Microsoft record for patching it's software

Hey " Let's get the facts"
With over 100,000 piece's of malware floating around for Microsoft products it is clear that either, Microsoft no longer has ability to fix their own software or They chose not to fix it hoping to SELL you a new software product.
As evidence see;
XP home http://secunia.com/product/16/
Xp Pro http://secunia.com/product/22/
Windows 2000 Professional http://secunia.com/product/1/
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise http://secunia.com/product/1174/

A quick scan of those pages shows that not only that Microsoft has not patched a lot of known security issues, but some of them are years old.

That right Microsoft has left it's software unpatched for YEARS, how the consumer can put up with this is beyond me.

Now compare this to a few of Linux distro's
SUSE Linux 9.2 http://secunia.com/product/4258/
SuSE Linux 9.1 http://secunia.com/product/3473/
Fedora Core 3 http://secunia.com/product/4222/
Mandrakelinux 10.0 http://secunia.com/product/3918/

So what if Linux has more(?) security alerts at least the chances of them ALL being patched quickly is much better.
 
Old 03-14-2005, 11:37 PM   #137
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Originally posted by rusty_slacker
look, if longhorn comes out early and totally rocks, would any of you buy it? even if it was $10?

what if in 5 years ms embraces linux and comes out with Winux 2010 or something? would you buy that if it was free?
In the past I have been forced to buy windows. It was given to me and technically... I had paid to use it. But I never did. I have been offered free copies of Windows and reduced price copies of Windows. But even if I could get a totally free version of Windows... which was completely legal... why would I switch? What benefits would it offer me when I already have a computer that meets all my needs and does it perfectly? No, seeing as the "benefits" Longhorn promises to bring are not things I desire or have a need for and it promises to break a lot of things I do use (like my prefered Window manager, command line tools, etc... which are pretty *nix specific) unless I install something like cygwin (to make it act like *nix). In fact, 95% of my first few days would be devoted to fixing it to act like I think it should... and then it would do that "poorly" compared to my current system.

No... Windows is for some people but it isn't for me.

Winux 2010? Buy it if it was free? I don't see what buying has to do with it. I might give it a try but I doubt it would appeal to me.
 
Old 03-15-2005, 12:04 AM   #138
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How do you buy winux for free?

Okay, anyway, if you had a choice between any other version of linux you would go with that as MS does not have a good reputation for security... They would have the force the issue by offering a linux with real windows app support, and they wont do that for obvious reasons...
 
Old 03-16-2005, 10:29 AM   #139
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There will be no longhorn. It's a chimaera.
(I mean longhorn will be an XP SPn, not what m$ intended to do at the beginning)
(window can't be improved. The system is now so complex that nothing can be deeply modified, even with billion dollars)
(window is an MVS "clone", that's why the system is complex)
And that's why window is overwhelmed by Linux and that's why window is going to die.


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Old 03-16-2005, 10:37 AM   #140
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Window can't be improved. The system is now so complex that nothing can be deeply modified, even with billion dollars
That's probably why most of Longhorn is being written from scratch, then, rather than a modification of existing MS software.
 
Old 03-16-2005, 03:12 PM   #141
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That's probably why most of Longhorn is being written from scratch, then, rather than a modification of existing MS software.
Is it? I have my doubts. I think there will still be a lot of old code in there.
 
  


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