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Old 02-07-2016, 06:34 PM   #1
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Why is Microsoft so desperate to push windows 10 on 7 and 8.x users


http://www.howtogeek.com/241329/upgr...0-to-everyone/

If we don't, what's their next move? Put us in a windows concentration camp with bob wires. Have a gun pointed to our heads?

Where's our freedom to choose? Why continue to push or sneak a upgrade we don't want.
 
Old 02-07-2016, 06:47 PM   #2
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Obviously ... "because they get $30 or so if you 'upgrade,' and nothing if you don't."
 
Old 02-07-2016, 11:17 PM   #3
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Obviously ... "because they get $30 or so if you 'upgrade,' and nothing if you don't."
All microsoft is doing to me is steering me away from it and become a 100% full time linux user.

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Old 02-08-2016, 04:49 AM   #4
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Windows 10 is the only windows version that I haven't tested on my machine and I don't plan to test/run it at all ever.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 07:39 AM   #5
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Well, I had hoped, for Microsoft Corporation's sake, that by gently-retiring the "other Steve," they would have in so doing cleaned-up their customer relations and would have generally put sensible focus on their various product lines ... but, clearly, that has not happened yet.

I feel that they're probably doing good by the X-box, and by locked-in corporate users, but that the consumer side of things has become very shaky, indeed. I suspect that Apple is eating their lunch and dinner and midnight snack.

So far, their corporate mentality with regard to "the Apple threat" seems to be to make a product that visually looks vaguely like an i-something.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 08:32 AM   #6
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I think its all marketing, it is what it all gets down to.
After all Windows 10 was in its early threshold days when Ballmer was still around.
While on a personal note I really like windows 10 and am using it to make this post, Microsoft forcing it down peoples throats is not a good idea.
For me the forced upgrading is my biggest issue with windows 10, not its "spying" as its still up in the air because of the way the EULA is written with the typical lawyer double talk in it.
I was fortunate that I actually wanted to put windows 10 on my system, I was actually looking forward to trying it out and I guess thats why I dont hate it.
I mean linux is still better, I only use windows for gaming.
But forced upgrades are big red flag to be sure, its different with say a linux rolling distro but windows is also a enterprise OS and it cant afford to make screw ups.

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Old 02-08-2016, 09:16 AM   #7
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If you're using Linux, who cares?
Chalk it up to good old fa$hioned greed.

I honestly don't know why people spend so much time concerned with what MS does.

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Old 02-08-2016, 09:31 AM   #8
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No I think it actually goes beyond just greed as to be honest I don't think Microsoft is making much money off of windows 10 right now mainly because of the allure of the free upgrade path to it. No I think it's because they set an unrealistic quota that they cannot match even if they tried without forcing everybody to step in line with their plans
 
Old 02-08-2016, 09:50 AM   #9
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If you don't think MS's motives are profit driven, you are sadly mistaken.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 10:13 AM   #10
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M$ motives are the same as any other cooperation today. Information is the key to those dollars. The more information M$ can assimilate the more money they can make. M$ is going the same route as Google. Google is free in terms of $$ but it Assimilates every search you do and click you make. Thus it can sell you what they think you want and M$ plans on doing the same. Privacy is a thing of the past, in today's world they know more about you then you think. A lot more.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 10:38 AM   #11
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Hah-hah! They're trying to sweep the W8 debacle under the carpet!

Next to ME that is ...
 
Old 02-08-2016, 10:38 AM   #12
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I mod at a Windows/Apple mainly every day users forum. I am the red headed linux stepchild there in case a linux user shows up.

Some hate it. Some love it. Seems age related on who feels what. My 2 motorcycle tuner laptops. Windows 7 on the Compaq CQ56.
The Windows 10 on the Samsung RV510. I park the Compaq till needed. The Samsung is a Dual booter with Mint 17 Mate on it.

Windows hardly ever gets booted. Tune ups on sert maps are rare and expensive to run. Unfortunately. Linux has no interest in hacking this and I lack the skills to hack this stuff myself.

Like Habitual. I just don't care what microsoft does. But if I need a tool. I'll pick it up and use it.
I am just flotsam and jetsam in the computing world putting up with what ever is available at the time that I need it.

My Compaq nags about updating to Windows 10. I just ignore it. One Windows 10 laptop is enough for me.
Microsoft motives? Oh well. Who cares. I am too small a fish to lose sleep over their motives.
It sure pisses me off though that my Iphone 5s is locked down with IOS9 and error 57 is a possibility if I change the battery instead of a apple tech.

But my wife paid for my phone and phone account. Cuz I am not a phone kind of person. So I live with it.

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Where's our freedom to choose?
In the corner with fairness.

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Old 02-08-2016, 05:59 PM   #13
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If you don't think MS's motives are profit driven, you are sadly mistaken.
Of course in the end they are in it for the money, I never said they were not in it for the money.
However there is more to profit then just money though, there is bragging rights too plus market domination.
For Microsoft they are always going to be their own competition until windows 7 dies off then they can move on to only supporting windows 8 and 10.
Its the windows 7 users they really want to pull in and like XP its those users who have the biggest reluctance to go windows 10.
People held out with XP and people are holding off with windows 7 and thats the part Microsoft cannot stand.
They failed big time with windows 8 and they do want everyone to pay attention to them again as opposed to considering buying a mac or even worse using linux.
They are doing poorly in the mobile market and they feel that the free upgrade can calm people into using the brand new shiny OS.
Its not working as planned, they want 2 billion users to have a windows 10 device and the numbers are not there in terms of downloads and user market.
This is more like a television ratings boon rather than a traditional "please buy me" marketing tactic, and they are losing profit not based on money but on how many people are using it.
Of course they are losing money as well but that was going to be in the cards and to be honest I think Microsoft knew that, but they were not just banking money on windows 10 but how much they can say how much of a success windows 10 is on a downloads model.
Again there is more to profit then just making money, a business measures profit not just in dollar signs but pretiege as well and when you bleed both it drives you to new tactics that are underhanded.
Loosing money all companies do that, its understandable.
Losing prestige and marketability? Much harder to attain
 
Old 02-08-2016, 06:09 PM   #14
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Way too much speculation and conjecture.
Whatever the source of their "desperation", I predict the next Windows upgrade will be mandatory and it will cost money.

End Transmission.
 
Old 02-08-2016, 06:10 PM   #15
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No doubt, as this experiment is not going as they want it to
 
  


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