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Old 07-31-2009, 05:09 PM   #1
Linuxisbad
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Thumbs down Why is Linux so terrible!!!?


So Iam up for Summer on my gran's pc and she has linux on instead of windows. And what do i find!?:

EXE files dont even work
The Flash player is rubbish
Firefox crashes every five seconds
Youtube stops working
"Pidgin" messenger sucks eggs!
Theres virtually no features
You cant download anything, like EXE files
And anything else Ive forgotten

Why does Linux SUCK!?


PS: This is a question and not a bash
 
Old 07-31-2009, 05:13 PM   #2
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Exe files are Windows specific, they only work on Windows. Linux is a totally different operating system.The Flash Player and Youtube issues could be a number of things. Pidgin is fine for a large number of us. There are lots and lots of features - more than on Windows, in fact. You can totally download anything, including exe files. And Linux doesn't suck at all (what other response would you expect on LINUXQuestions?)

Welcome to LQ - take a deep breath, tell us which distro (version of Linux) you rgran has and tell us what you are trying to do and we can help you far more easily.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 05:15 PM   #3
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Windows is great and Linuxisbad is its prophet.
Great user name, by the way, for someone who has no intention of bashing.

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Old 07-31-2009, 05:17 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxisbad View Post
So Iam up for Summer on my gran's pc and she has linux on instead of windows. And what do i find!?:

EXE files dont even work
The Flash player is rubbish
Firefox crashes every five seconds
Youtube stops working
"Pidgin" messenger sucks eggs!
Theres virtually no features
You cant download anything, like EXE files
And anything else Ive forgotten

Why does Linux SUCK!?


PS: This is a question and not a bash
I sincerely hope you are a troll, and not serious.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 05:28 PM   #5
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I am sitting here trying to think of something nice to say..
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thinking....
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Got it!! My system at home (Mepis 8 / Athlon XP2400) has been working just about perfectly since I set it up a few months ago.
No problems with Flash
Firefox has never crashed
You Tube works perfectly
The Package manager lists a HUGE selection of SW.
And more....
 
Old 07-31-2009, 05:59 PM   #6
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Gotta be a bot or a troll.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:09 PM   #7
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Well lets see, tell me the last time you have had a virus on windows, on linux for me never, and I don't have a anti virus program. What about spyware... ever get any? Not me.

Now just because you use a system that maybe wasn't set up right doesn't mean linux "sucks" and just because YOU don't know what you are doing mean the same. If you have a question that is constructive ask it and we will try to help. As for the question you did ask, what sucks for you is perfectly fine for the rest of us.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:09 PM   #8
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So Iam up for Summer on my gran's pc and she has linux on instead of windows. And what do i find!?: Perhaps that your gran can use a PC and you can't?

EXE files dont even work - This a much desired FEATURE
The Flash player is rubbish - Works for me
Firefox crashes every five seconds - Again, works for me
Youtube stops working - Not for me
"Pidgin" messenger sucks eggs! - Never use it, so I don't know. Then again, I'm over 16.
Theres virtually no features - I'm with Pix on this one
You cant download anything, like EXE files - Geez. I've downloaded gigabytes of stuff.

And anything else Ive forgotten - Pix will ban me if I answer this one.

Why does Linux SUCK!? - Um, look in a mirror?


PS: This is a question and not a bash - bahahahahahahahaha - troll
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:11 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pixellany View Post
My system at home (Mepis 8 / Athlon XP2400) has been working just about perfectly since I set it up a few months ago.
No problems with Flash
Firefox has never crashed
Why am I so unlucky?

Mepis 8.0 at home, Firefox has crashed at least 3 times this year. The whole OS has crashed at least twice.

Windows XP at work, I usually can't tell which crashes are related to Firefox. Firefox is usually open and the whole OS crashes about 7 times per month. Microsoft Outlook crashes a lot more than that, but usually doesn't take the whole OS with it. (Thunderbird at home or at work hasn't crashed, but at work it was trashed badly by a Windows update). I think IE has only crashed twice this year, but most days I never even open it, so it doesn't get many opportunities to crash.

I never took the time to figure out whether I have any of the problems I've been told I should have with Flash in 64 bit Firefox in Linux. On all the websites I go to, everything that looks like it ought to work does. I don't know which moving and/or animated content or video clips etc. use which tools. They all just work. I couldn't say for sure whether any of it is flash.

On some unattended systems at work I'm trying to find the time to figure out how to use Wine in Linux for ordinary scheduled task Windows activities because the Windows systems crash too often. Our shared Linux systems almost never crash, certainly less than one crash per system per year, probably much less than that.

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EXE files dont even work - This a much desired FEATURE
Lots of EXE's work fine in Wine with no special effort (including some that do direct I/O to the printer port and other nastiness that I was sure would need special effort). Some EXEs I want to run in Wine would need a bit more effort to set up the right environment. I don't expect serious problems, I just fail to get around to doing it.

Last edited by johnsfine; 07-31-2009 at 06:14 PM.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:16 PM   #10
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I must agree on one point, though. If you try to view the NASA TV site with Firefox 2.0 and Linux, it gets all confused and wants you to install Firefox. So, I guess Linux does suck.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:19 PM   #11
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Lots of EXE's work fine in Wine with no special effort (including some that do direct I/O to the printer port and other nastiness that I was sure would need special effort). Some EXEs I want to run in Wine would need a bit more effort to set up the right environment. I don't expect serious problems, I just fail to get around to doing it.
Come on, John! The boy can't even get Youtube to work - expecting him to be able to run Wine is probably asking way too much!
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:20 PM   #12
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If I convert a flash video in a firefox plugin, the windows version adds an overlay to the video. The linux version doesn't.
Linux has mencoder and ffmpeg available to convert your flash videos so you can play them on your portable player if you want. I can convert them to use the xvid codec in .avi containers, burn them to a CD and play them on my DVD player which has DIVX support. You can't get more flexible than that.

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EXE files dont even work
They might using Wine. Your favorite IM client, that you miss can probably install and run under wine.

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The Flash player is rubbish
You can search on this site for plenty of threads dealing with getting flash working. If you are using a 64 bit distro, I find the 32 bit wrapper works better than the native 64 bit player which is still fairly new.

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Firefox crashes every five seconds
You may be overloaded with plugins. Which version of Firefox do you have? This problem can occur in Windows as well.

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Youtube stops working
Check if you use the noscript plugin. Check if you have the plugin to play flash videos. enter "about:plugins" in firefox.

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"Pidgin" messenger sucks eggs!
Linux has other IM and IRC clients. Look in your package manager. An windows IM client might be the type of program that can easily run in wine.

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Theres virtually no features
Being able to switch to another desktop is a Linux feature I really miss when I have to use Windows at work. When I had a DVD burner go out at work (on my encoder), I brought a portable DVD burner from home to do my backups from my XP desktop. XP didn't have DVD support. It would only burn CDs.

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You cant download anything, like EXE files
When you use your package manager, you are downloading files from your distro. A Linux distro installed from a DVD already has thousands of programs. How many IM clients did you have to choose from on your Windows install disk?

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And anything else Ive forgotten
You forgot about all that wonderful malware you are missing.

Last edited by jschiwal; 08-01-2009 at 06:24 AM.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:25 PM   #13
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Check if you use the noscript plugin. Check if you have the plugin to play flash videos. enter "config:plugins" in firefox.
I believe that should read 'about:plugins'

;)

Last edited by GrapefruiTgirl; 07-31-2009 at 06:27 PM.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:27 PM   #14
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Come on, John! The boy can't even get Youtube to work - expecting him to be able to run Wine is probably asking way too much!
My comments on Wine were responding to you, not to him.

I'm one of those Dinosaurs who barely knows what Youtube even is. Maybe some of the links to funny videos that I've clicked on when I got them from trusted emails were on Youtube. If so I didn't notice that fact. If I had needed to do something extra to make those work, I think I would have noticed. On many aspects of computer systems, I strive for a high level of competence and comprehension. On what happens when I click on a link to a funny video I strive for (and certainly achieve) the opposite.
 
Old 07-31-2009, 06:44 PM   #15
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So Iam up for Summer on my gran's pc and she has linux on instead of windows. And what do i find!?:
What a sensible woman - I like her.

And now let's revert the question: Why does windows suck so badly?

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EXE files dont even work
None of my Linux executables work in Windows!
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Quote:
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The Flash player is rubbish
I can't play my x.263+ movies w/o an opensource player!

Quote:
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Firefox crashes every five seconds
Internet Explorer crashes every 5 seconds and takes my Windows with it!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxisbad View Post
Theres virtually no features
There are no features in Windows, unless I go steal software,
or cough-up mega-bucks.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Linuxisbad View Post
Why does Linux SUCK!?


PS: This is a question and not a bash
It doesn't - Windows does.

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