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Old 08-28-2007, 11:36 AM   #16
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The worst is that I was reading in scientific magazine that the more broken cells you eat, the highest increase of getting any cancer you get.
They talked a lot ab. this glucose, and US "bad" style of food, too much broken glucose.

They talked that regular puree is worse as potatoes, not cut & just boiled.
Pastas were worse as potatoes for instance. The glucose quality was not that great. I cannot recall this magazine name ...

Hence, my deduction, the more you freeze, the more cancer you get. Look in Canada, it is pretty high, no? Freezing = not good ?

I am not expert in that stuffs ; Can scientists help us a bit further ?
 
Old 08-28-2007, 12:22 PM   #17
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We're all going to die someday...
Well, yeah. We are. So you may as well enjoy yourself.


"I'm not frightened of dying,
any time will do, I don't mind.

Why should I be frightened of dying?
We've all got to go sometime."
'The Great Gig in the Sky' -Pink Floyd

I'll shut up now...
 
Old 08-28-2007, 12:30 PM   #18
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Right - whatever they tell us is good for us after a little while isn't and vice-versa. I recall when eggs were talked about almost as if they were cyanide pills - now they say these aren't bad for us unless we eat only the whites (which previously was also thought to be good for us).

The thing is to eat a balanced diet and do some regular exercise. You'll feel better overall and have better chances for a long life - assuming you don't get flattened in traffic on your way home some day...
 
Old 08-28-2007, 01:01 PM   #19
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All of which puts the lie to the idea that everything tastes like chicken.
...and I'd say even most chicken meat doesn't really taste like chicken since your average consumer product is going to be a 3 (or something) month old rooster. No time to develop and exercise any real musculature. If you ever tasted a free range one that got caught after say one year you know the difference. Now Wikipedia says chicken feed used in mass production can contain a drug which contains arsenic. Arsenic can cause cancer.
 
Old 08-28-2007, 05:00 PM   #20
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i have to spend tomorrow with people i dont like, so i had garlic bread and onion rings for my dinner tonight.
 
Old 08-29-2007, 05:12 AM   #21
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Checking if you're eating an industrial chicken or a naturally fed one which was outside (tm):

Take the leg part, the bone in your hand, do the same gesture as if you were playing tennis. If you don't have anymore the meat on the bone, the chicken didn't do a lot of exercise..
To be avoided in restaurants tho'
 
Old 08-29-2007, 05:00 PM   #22
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Checking if you're eating an industrial chicken or a naturally fed one which was outside (tm):

Take the leg part, the bone in your hand, do the same gesture as if you were playing tennis. If you don't have anymore the meat on the bone, the chicken didn't do a lot of exercise..
To be avoided in restaurants tho'
He can eat also beans :-) lot of, no ? Any other good ideas ?
 
Old 08-29-2007, 05:29 PM   #23
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Not bacteria, but some kind of spores. If you freeze a penguin, when you defrost the spores can develop to bacteria. By the way, why we should freeze linux!?
True but in that sense bacteria can also live... I meant, they can't multiply while frozen.

Last edited by teek; 08-29-2007 at 05:35 PM.
 
Old 10-09-2007, 07:13 PM   #24
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FWIW, while freezing may not kill any/all/some things, it DOES allegedly kill parasites--- assuming the parasites aren't scorpions or undersea-boiling-water-bacteriae () and provided the food is frosen for (I believe) 30-60 days, depending on the parasite(s) in question.

@ nx5000 -- I take it that chicken-test you mention in post #21 is intended to be performed with cooked chicken??

Finally, re the amount of radiation emitted from a microwave vs. that emitted by a computer, I know that if I were to open up the side door of my computer, and place within its case a glass of water containing an incandescent lightbulb, nothing interesting would happen. However, were I to place that same glass of water & lightbulb into a microwave, the lightbulb lights up which tells me something... Not sure what-all it tells me, but one thing's for sure: there's more of something being emitted from the microwave
 
Old 10-10-2007, 02:04 PM   #25
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I warmed up yesterday the food in hte sauce pan very quiockly. should the food be warmed up slowly from -25°C to regular temperature, before cooking. I know in restaurant thats forbiden to warm up too fast
 
Old 10-10-2007, 02:09 PM   #26
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FWIW, while freezing may not kill any/all/some things, it DOES allegedly kill parasites--- assuming the parasites aren't scorpions or undersea-boiling-water-bacteriae () and provided the food is frosen for (I believe) 30-60 days, depending on the parasite(s) in question.

@ nx5000 -- I take it that chicken-test you mention in post #21 is intended to be performed with cooked chicken??

Finally, re the amount of radiation emitted from a microwave vs. that emitted by a computer, I know that if I were to open up the side door of my computer, and place within its case a glass of water containing an incandescent lightbulb, nothing interesting would happen. However, were I to place that same glass of water & lightbulb into a microwave, the lightbulb lights up which tells me something... Not sure what-all it tells me, but one thing's for sure: there's more of something being emitted from the microwave
that s physic ! :-)
the h2o molecule is in vibration, rotation if I recall well.
the frequency is known

sp2 something

can someone refresh my memory ??
 
Old 10-29-2007, 03:38 PM   #27
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Can it be that below zero, H2O water gets into ice crystal type I or II, then, we get lower density to 1 and too dilatation (that is the interesting case, that is opposite to metals e.g.) hence
dilatation will break the module chains, nope ?
Molecule broken, hence, lower integrity ...
 
Old 10-29-2007, 04:17 PM   #28
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I agree with every thing you say but I just might add that repetitive freezing and defrosting of food is a good method of sterilization though. However, because the crystallization of water is destructive to cells and since most your food consists of cells, you also alter your food structure and aid bacteria in the rotting process as soon as the food defrosts.

On top of that, living (that is dividing and metabolizing) for bacteria requires liquid water, to my knowlegde no bacteria can live in ice.
Au contraire, there are a number of bacteria that survive in ice quite nicely. They can either sporulate and not do anything until thawed, or there are a few that can actually live in micro climates of water trapped in ice.
 
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Au contraire, there are a number of bacteria that survive in ice quite nicely. They can either sporulate and not do anything until thawed, or there are a few that can actually live in micro climates of water trapped in ice.
Even in boiling water, everybody knows that strong/worst bacteria that is present in too many hospitals ...
 
Old 11-01-2007, 04:33 AM   #30
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Finally, re the amount of radiation emitted from a microwave vs. that emitted by a computer, I know that if I were to open up the side door of my computer, and place within its case a glass of water containing an incandescent lightbulb, nothing interesting would happen. However, were I to place that same glass of water & lightbulb into a microwave, the lightbulb lights up which tells me something... Not sure what-all it tells me, but one thing's for sure: there's more of something being emitted from the microwave
More microwaves by any chance?

If you place something in a microwave, you are measuring the radiation contained within the appliance, not what it is emitting. To measure what is being emitted, you need to place the test object outside the appliance.
 
  


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