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Old 10-03-2017, 04:30 AM   #16
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Also not sure if you can install Linux on Thinkpads.
You certainly can. There's a website with lots of information about it, too.
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
 
Old 10-03-2017, 07:51 AM   #17
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As said, weight is the limiting factor. Extra capacity adds extra weight.
 
Old 10-03-2017, 08:19 AM   #18
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Apple solution to it put battery in side the case. Not like most laptops for Windows that have big bulky battery dock.


Well battery dock may be easy to swap out old battery that does not hold charge or battery not holding all it charge it big bully. Apple idea thin and lightwaight you have to open up the laptop case to get at it.
If I look at Apple users, in general they are happy with their battery life.

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Old 10-03-2017, 08:26 AM   #19
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Also not sure if you can install Linux on Thinkpads.
Thinkpads were among the easiest computers to install Linux on. I think Thinkpad does not exist anymore and has become Lenovo. I had a T61 which was the best laptop I ever had. I suddenly died after 8 years of daily service.

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I know some Dell computers you can install Linux.
I don't know if this is some Dell computers or most Dell computers. I have not checked them all. But the one I purchased, an Inspirion 5759 is also installed from factory with Ubuntu. I installed Debian Stretch on it without a hitch and everything just works. Including EFI boot.

I have not been able to really check battery life on the Dell. The Dell is less powerful than my Asus N73S and also is much lighter and has a battery 3 times as small. As far as I can see, the battery life is at least equal to the Asus.

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Old 10-03-2017, 09:21 AM   #20
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My Dell laptop came with Linux factory pre-installed and gets 8-10 hours battery life. You just have to shop around.
 
Old 10-05-2017, 06:22 PM   #21
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nVidia's PowerMizer seem to really be working for me under Linux on my Skylake HP lappy. I can play a 3D Steam game for almost three hours unplugged. For normal web surfing it gets about the same 6+ hours as my buggy Bay Trail laptop with Atom CPU. Not bad for a 3GHz processor, though it's really a dual core with hyper-threading, not a quad core i7.

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Old 10-05-2017, 08:20 PM   #22
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the simple answer is people just don't demand longer battery life from laptops
when I use my batteries on a laptop it's to run suspend mode nothing more
when running in a car I use an inverter
 
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A very long time ago I heard a claim by GM that they made cars to fit drivers to the 95th percentile. Meaning that by some whacky measurement they figured that most folks could fit in and operate the cars they make.

Laptops are kind of the same. Makers figure that their batteries will last most folks the normal use needed until they can plug in. You could of course combine a Chevy Bolt with a laptop and run it for 240 miles more or less.
 
Old 10-05-2017, 11:26 PM   #24
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I use one of those car jump-start batteries!!! Huge but works. (There's more expensive small lithium ones)
12volt netbook direct; 19v via AC inverter. Or run off car cig lighter socket Good for power outages
 
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My Dell laptop came with Linux factory pre-installed and gets 8-10 hours battery life. You just have to shop around.
I don't think that fair.

Most computers are cheap out there at it shows it , unless you go with Apple, thinkpads or Dell. All have awesome batteries and computer last 6 to 10 years.

Some racer gaming computers you get good 4 hours of battery some models even more but agin coat. Some of the asus computers are well built and good battery.

But most of the public stick to Acer, HP, gateway or compaq an this shows it. A cheap 2 or 3 hour battery , battery in year or two that needs replacing and hardware problem and computer that last 3 or 4 years and very very very lucky to make it to its 5 year birthday.

We drop the ball and the public price range is now $200 to $700.

No one wants to spend $1,000 or more on laptop!!! And this shows it.

That why I hope Apple and racer never bring out $700 laptop.
 
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Some racer gaming computers you get good 4 hours of battery some models even more but agin coat.
A gaming computer will necessarily have a shorter battery life, because of the GPU power requirements. A previous poster @michaelk in post #2 that the concept of run-time is really a very simple equation.

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But most of the public stick to Acer, HP, gateway or compaq an this shows it. A cheap 2 or 3 hour battery , battery in year or two that needs replacing and hardware problem and computer that last 3 or 4 years and very very very lucky to make it to its 5 year birthday.
For what it's worth, from the perspective of someone who works in a large IT department. We don't even try to stretch our laptops to 5 years. And I'm not talking about $300 Best Buy consumer brands; I'm talking high-end Apples, Dells, and Lenovos. New laptop every 3-4 years is a pretty standard corporate IT policy in the year 2017. Batteries are a consumable resource that wears out over time; it's good strategy to buy laptops with user-replaceable batteries and budget for a replacement every couple of years.

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A gaming computer will necessarily have a shorter battery life, because of the GPU power requirements. A previous poster @michaelk in post #2 that the concept of run-time is really a very simple equation.



For what it's worth, from the perspective of someone who works in a large IT department. We don't even try to stretch our laptops to 5 years. And I'm not talking about $300 Best Buy consumer brands; I'm talking high-end Apples, Dells, and Lenovos. New laptop every 3-4 years is a pretty standard corporate IT policy in the year 2017. Batteries are a consumable resource that wears out over time; it's good strategy to buy laptops with user-replaceable batteries and budget for a replacement every couple of years.
I don't think most people would want to spend $2,000 on laptop that only going to last 4 years!!! Even $1,000 laptop is bit much every 4 years.

Now $400 laptop every 4 years people may be okay with that.
 
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A gaming computer will necessarily have a shorter battery life, because of the GPU power requirements. A previous poster @michaelk in post #2 that the concept of run-time is really a very simple equation.



For what it's worth, from the perspective of someone who works in a large IT department. We don't even try to stretch our laptops to 5 years. And I'm not talking about $300 Best Buy consumer brands; I'm talking high-end Apples, Dells, and Lenovos. New laptop every 3-4 years is a pretty standard corporate IT policy in the year 2017. Batteries are a consumable resource that wears out over time; it's good strategy to buy laptops with user-replaceable batteries and budget for a replacement every couple of years.
Also some of gaming laptops battery have improve lot now.

https://www.razerzone.com

Bladesteath 10 hours of QHD, 7 hours of 4k, 15 hours power back

And they have other units even better.

But this is $2,000 laptop.
 
  


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