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Old 08-08-2019, 04:37 PM   #1
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Cool Whoa, I can't believe I just logged into this account!


I made this account in 2003, when I was 16, my first post begins thusly;

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Yeah, I'm a total newbie and have never used Linux before, and I've been told by 34534 people that slackware is "hard as hell and impossible to use" etc but I'm gonna try it anyways.....because I hate windows...


I literally installed Linux (Mandrake, not Slack) because I found bb4win or whatever windows blackbox port was popular at that time while browsing DeviantArt and was using it for a while before realizing it was a port of an actual window manager for something called "Linux" (and also that "window managers" and "desktop environments" were things that existed). I had no idea what I was doing, I basically spent a month or so talking to my l33t friends about what this all means and decided to take the plunge.

I distro hopped on and off every now and again for a few years, usually bailing whenever I needed Photoshop or missed WinAMP, but came back with increasingly frequently as I dove into the whole Netbook craze of that era and I discovered something called "Ubuntu Netbook Remix" which eventually became Unity.

Now I'm 33 and I just went through my first Arch installation and came here to browse, tried to login and found out that my old name still works

Sorry for the rant, I'm sure nobody cares as much as I do, but I'm pretty excited.

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Old 08-08-2019, 05:00 PM   #2
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Old 08-08-2019, 07:16 PM   #3
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Thanks!
 
Old 08-08-2019, 07:16 PM   #4
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I made this account in 2003, when I was 16
I was in elementary school when you joined
 
Old 08-09-2019, 02:09 AM   #5
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Welcome back, twice your original age!

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I found bb4win or whatever windows blackbox port was popular at that time while browsing DeviantArt
I've been using that for a while before switching to Linux!
 
Old 08-09-2019, 03:59 AM   #6
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I made this account in 2003, when I was 16, my first post begins thusly;

Yeah, I'm a total newbie and have never used Linux before, and I've been told by 34534 people that slackware is "hard as hell and impossible to use" etc but I'm gonna try it anyways.....because I hate windows...

Sorry for the rant, I'm sure nobody cares as much as I do, but I'm pretty excited.
It was 2003 when I first heard about Slackware too: it sounded like the ultimate in interesting and cool desktop OSs, but I thought it was way beyond me so I shelved the idea until 2017 when I started to learn it. Now all my machines run it [OK, the Chromebook runs Xubuntu but that's because of hardware incompatibilities].

Welcome back, I think that if one is sufficiently intrigued by Linux, it never goes out of one's system [mechanic or organic systems].

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Old 08-09-2019, 07:09 AM   #7
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I was in elementary school when you joined
LOL, me too. I was about to enter 11.
 
Old 08-10-2019, 11:30 AM   #8
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That's way cool. I imagine after that much time you've learned how to undo any issues caused by pacman but if you ever get tired of fundamental processes doing stuff behind your back that can endanger the base system you really should check out Slackware, even if it's just -- Live Slack --- . On second thought, hard drive real estate is cheap these days so maybe you finally should just "try it anyways" and realize that sweet sixteen dream
 
Old 08-10-2019, 07:46 PM   #9
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That's way cool. I imagine after that much time you've learned how to undo any issues caused by pacman but if you ever get tired of fundamental processes doing stuff behind your back that can endanger the base system you really should check out Slackware, even if it's just -- Live Slack --- . On second thought, hard drive real estate is cheap these days so maybe you finally should just "try it anyways" and realize that sweet sixteen dream
To be honest I'm actually considering it as we speak lol


I joined the Arch forum so I could ask some questions and just be part of it, but the very first thread I made ended up getting me banned because the responses I got were all internet tough guys flexing their ability to memorize the wiki and basically calling me dense, which I don't do well with so I went off and obviously I got banned, because techie forums always tend to either be extremely nice or extremely rude, and the Arch one clearly tends to the latter.

Now I'm IP banned on the forum and have a very bad taste in my mouth, and just about every time I do anything on here it screws something else up as you mentioned, and I'm getting sick of that so I'll be joining the Slack gang in the very near future.
 
Old 08-10-2019, 11:06 PM   #10
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To be honest I'm actually considering it as we speak lol


I joined the Arch forum so I could ask some questions and just be part of it, but the very first thread I made ended up getting me banned because the responses I got were all internet tough guys flexing their ability to memorize the wiki and basically calling me dense, which I don't do well with so I went off and obviously I got banned, because techie forums always tend to either be extremely nice or extremely rude, and the Arch one clearly tends to the latter.

Now I'm IP banned on the forum and have a very bad taste in my mouth, and just about every time I do anything on here it screws something else up as you mentioned, and I'm getting sick of that so I'll be joining the Slack gang in the very near future.
Hmm that might be a good reason why Arch is well-documented. It had to be Actually I have met a few Arch guys that were OK and reasonably knowledgeable so I did check out Arch and Manjaro but the simple fact is I have no need for a rolling release. To me that whole mindset that New always always equals improved is Microsoft and Madison Avenue sales propaganda. That doesn't mean I think Old always equals good either. I just don't think Old or New is the issue. Things are good because they function well and especially function well for my use case.

Maybe it's because Slackware has been around so long, or maybe because it is pretty much one guy in charge... his clear vision, or maybe because Slackware is never likely to be BMOC but I find the Slackware Community to be the best support I have ever known. One, they/we tend to be guys who don't mind nuts and bolts... actually prefer that and Two, there is little need to prove anything to anyone so the feel is chill. Naturally there are a few feisty folks but they are definitely the exception. It's pretty damned great, but then I suppose that's a no-brainer I would say that since it's been my Main for just over 20 years now. However since I started on OS/2, not Windows, I've been a multi-booter for ages so I've tried a LOT of distros. At any one time I have 5-6 distros on this box and have done that for decades, so I'm not on Slackware because I'm totally ignorant of options.

Anyway, if you choose to check it out and need any help just PM me or checkout the Slackware sub-forum here.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 12:06 AM   #11
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Thanks! I'm installing it right now, I'm having issues with kernel panic (not syncing vfs) and trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do about the kernel not recognizing ext4 (I think?).

Other than that, I'm pretty surprised.. It's literally no more difficult than installing windows 95 from prompt. Arch was much more complicated, I can't believe I never tried until now.


Edit: fixed it and booted successfully - I literally forgot to format and mount /

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Old 08-11-2019, 05:45 AM   #12
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Don't forget to change your profile....

Even if Slack isn't the 'one' - you'll soon find one to settle with.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 10:21 AM   #13
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After so many years, so many PCs, so many times installing Slackware the ncurses installer feels like a room in my home, but it is very different from an Arch install. I've done the netinstall thing with Arch and also the anARCHy and Manjaro installers, as well as close to 100 other distros over 20 years, so I do understand the minor difficulties adapting to a new and different installer concept. For that reason alone you deserve a CONGRATULATIONS STALKZ!

I think you will find Slackware Documentation very solid if not quite as diverse as Arch's vast documentation. I'd like to recommend you not immediately gravitate to some of the newer automation tools like "slackpkg" and stick to the Extras catalog and Slackbuilds.org for a few months. Get a feel for how easy and above all controllable and VISIBLE it is to manually handle dependencies. You will always know exactly what happened because you must initiate it. Slack won't go behind your back and that is amazingly empowering. Your base system, once installed is never at risk unless you expressly choose to knowingly risk it.

So I have to ask, did you choose 14.2 or Current?

Anyway, Congratz Bro and welcome to the community.
 
Old 08-11-2019, 04:22 PM   #14
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A rightful pat on the back for even remembering your credentials after all those years. Lord knows, I have forgotten in much shorter time... [Saunters off stage and went left when he should have gone right/]
 
Old 08-11-2019, 08:20 PM   #15
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Funnily enough, I logged in for the first time since 2014 a couple of days ago.

I too started with Mandrake Linux, however from there I very quickly went to Slackware. Stayed with Slackware while I was in uni, and then moved to Arch soon after I started working for convenience, more up to date software and more choice (through the AUR). After a few years I decided I wanted a more stable system that required less maintenance so I moved to Debian. Aside from a couple year distraction with OS X 4 years ago I've been using Debian as my primary OS ever since. I've tried many distros along the way, but non stuck.

I'll always have a special fondness of Slackware, because I feel that's what taught me Linux, however, these days I'm so impressed with the level of polish, robustness and quality of Debian that I'm far too comfortable to move.
 
  


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