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Old 01-04-2008, 10:46 AM   #1
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what would you do with a 14 year old computer game addict


my nephew spends 40 t0 48 hours on the weekends and all of his free time on week days playing shootem up computers games
once pried off the computer he becomes a monster (withdraw)
just tacking the computer away would handicap hem in later life
so just tacking the computer away is not an option
(he needs to know how to use a computer to get any kind of good job )

so the question is what to do
 
Old 01-04-2008, 10:56 AM   #2
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Give him schedules for using computer. He can have 3-4 hours of gaming per weekday, you can use some parental control software to do that automatically, but of course if you talk about that and come to an agreement without using "parental control" software it's better

P.S. What does it mean: "just tacking the computer away would handicap hem in later life"?
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:02 AM   #3
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One should speak with the parents and explain the issues as you see them. Professional help may be needed for both the parents and the child.

Playing games is 40+ hours a week is not knowing how to use a computer unless he is getting paid to do so.
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:10 AM   #4
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There are plenty of jobs that don't require anyone to be a computer genius. Give him other things to do and beat the parents for allowing him to play video games all day everyday. And people functioned without computers for millions of years, this will not handicap him by providing alternative activities that do not involve electronics.

If it's really that serious, counseling and taking him to see a doctor would be the most advisable course of action I would recommend.

And did I mention beating the parents. Beat them silly on the head for allowing it to get this bad. Seems to me they need to pay more attention to this child with a problem, yes, a problem. The underlying problem though isn't just the kid, sounds like the parents have issues as well that they need to workout.

PS. How does a 14 year old spend 40 to 48 hours on the weekends playing video games anyways? Does he not eat or sleep? 24 hours in a day, two days in a weekend equals 48 hours.
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:14 AM   #5
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Give him schedules for using computer. He can have 3-4 hours of gaming per weekday, you can use some parental control software to do that automatically, but of course if you talk about that and come to an agreement without using "parental control" software it's better

P.S. What does it mean: "just tacking the computer away would handicap hem in later life"?
3 to 4 hours? Pfft.. 1 hour at most after homework and any other chores are done. Along with setting up some time for reading and or other alternative activities that don't involve a computer or electronics.

They also have power supplies/adapters that have parental controls on them where you can control the time when electricity is flowing. It will auto shutoff power at the times you specify, with the power cord locked safely. Just make sure there's no other power cords readily available for him to swap out on the back of the computer.

And of course, most routers also enable the users to specify internet connection at certain times of the day, another good way to prevent from online gaming and browsing.
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:28 AM   #6
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3-4 hours on the weekdays? Way too much. Doesn't he have homework?

- 1 hour during the weekdays. 3-4 maximum during the weekend.
- Stern schedules that cannot be adjusted.
- NEVER give in to his "monster" attitude and allow him to play his games.
- Find something else of interest to him to occupy his mind. Puzzles, reading, playing catch with Dad, etc.
- Consider his mental, physical and emotional health.
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:33 AM   #7
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my nephew spends 40 t0 48 hours on the weekends and all of his free time on week days playing shootem up computers games
once pried off the computer he becomes a monster (withdraw)
just tacking the computer away would handicap hem in later life
so just tacking the computer away is not an option
(he needs to know how to use a computer to get any kind of good job )

so the question is what to do
Hmmmmmm... playing Shoot'em up games won't help him at all to learn how to use a computer and get a paid job in the future, sorry. I fail to see the logic in this.

I would be against any parental control methods (locking the computer or whatever). We have to learn how to reason with kids, not forbid them. And 14 old is no small kid either. He has to learn how to control himself or that is what will cause him NOT to have a job in the future.

Also, if he does not have a job, get him one. I think I was 14 when I started working in the summers and partial hours. Give him responsibilities ratter than restrictions. That is what he will need in the future, not uber mouse skills...
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:37 AM   #8
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Give him schedules for using computer. He can have 3-4 hours of gaming per weekday, you can use some parental control software to do that automatically, but of course if you talk about that and come to an agreement without using "parental control" software it's better

P.S. What does it mean: "just tacking the computer away would handicap hem in later life"?
not being able to use a computer to day is like not being able to read and write 20 years ago
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:39 AM   #9
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One should speak with the parents and explain the issues as you see them. Professional help may be needed for both the parents and the child.

Playing games is 40+ hours a week is not knowing how to use a computer unless he is getting paid to do so.
RIGHT YOU ARE !
learning how to use a computer is why he was given the machine in the first place
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:44 AM   #10
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not being able to use a computer to day is like not being able to read and write 20 years ago
Sorry but I call bullshit on that statement. Please explain this to the masses?

There are still millions that have jobs that don't require a computer, literally millions and I fail to see this but rather an opinion. Hell, millions still function in society not even knowing how to read and write, which still amazes me. Not knowing how to use a computer doesn't even amount to reading and writing.
 
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RIGHT YOU ARE !
learning how to use a computer is why he was given the machine in the first place
Then uninstall his video games, destroy the cd's or data they're on and deny him access to the internet to download more. It really isn't that hard.
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:50 AM   #12
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3 to 4 hours? Pfft.. 1 hour at most after homework and any other chores are done. Along with setting up some time for reading and or other alternative activities that don't involve a computer or electronics.

They also have power supplies/adapters that have parental controls on them where you can control the time when electricity is flowing. It will auto shutoff power at the times you specify, with the power cord locked safely. Just make sure there's no other power cords readily available for him to swap out on the back of the computer.

And of course, most routers also enable the users to specify internet connection at certain times of the day, another good way to prevent from online gaming and browsing.
there is a thrift shop 1/2 mile away $1.00 gets hem a new power cord
or he could shop lift it for free

he dose his home work cleans his room
he is not on the internet playing the games
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:54 AM   #13
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there is a thrift shop 1/2 mile away $1.00 gets hem a new power cord
or he could shop lift it for free
So, tell the local shop to not sell him one. Don't give him money. Tell him if he steals one and you find him using it, you'll report him yourself. Teach him some moral values that stealing is wrong. I see all of this as part of being a parent, which apparently they are not doing if it resorts to this type of behavior.

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he dose his home work cleans his room
he is not on the internet playing the games
Good for him. Now give him something else to do besides playing video games. Parents have kids to pay attention to them, interact with them, help them learn to grow into adults. If a parent just allows their children to waste away their childhood playing video games, they should have thought twice about having kids in the first place.
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:54 AM   #14
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Then uninstall his video games, destroy the cd's or data they're on and deny him access to the internet to download more. It really isn't that hard.
he found a way to crack the admn password and hid a restore point some place

the kid is learning the wrong things about XP fighting us trying to stop hem
 
Old 01-04-2008, 11:57 AM   #15
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he found a way to crack the admn password and hid a restore point some place

the kid is learning the wrong things about XP fighting us trying to stop hem
Then take the computer away for a bit as punishment. Kids need to learn that privileges come with responsibilities, and if you don't meet the responsibilities, you don't get the privileges.

This isn't hard, the kid just needs parents with a clue.
 
  


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