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Old 03-29-2016, 07:40 PM   #31
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In February 2006, "China Military Online" (a website sponsored by PLA Daily of the Chinese People's Liberation Army) reported the "successful development of the Kylin server operating system", which it said was "the first 64-bit operating system with high security level (B2 class)" and "also the first operating system without Linux kernel that has obtained Linux global standard authentification [sic] by the international Free Standards Group".[2]
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:47 PM   #32
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Wow! A Kylin server OS with no backdoors in it.
 
Old 03-29-2016, 09:56 PM   #33
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Wow, dont those look like fun
 
Old 03-30-2016, 01:52 PM   #34
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It's a TV show and as such it is set up to give you something enjoyable to view for $LengthOfShow while maintaining a certain percentage of viewers, which means it has to bend reality to achieve that. A TV show about real life hacking (like: a person trying to convince another person on the phone to give out a password, a person spending weeks of reviewing source code (if available) for exploitable code, a person spending weeks trying to break a function by feeding it with garbage input, ...) would for most people be utterly boring and not result in the percentage of viewers necessary to sell ad-space in the breaks or subscriptions when the show runs on a service like Netflix or Hulu. So, yes, most of it is fabricated, but if you have some knowledge it can even be enjoyable to spot all the mistakes they make.
Actually if you watch it, Mr. Robot isn't that unrealistic. Most of their close-in computer shots are of somebody sitting at a bash terminal running real commands that you would expect somebody to be running in that situation, eg: ls -lrt to look at timestamps for recently modified files to find a piece of malware and then chown/chmod to remove permissions from it, tar and ftp to create and upload a filesystem image, etc.

Most of their "hacking" is researching a person on facebook to learn something about them and then using that as a baseline for guessing passwords (spouse names, pet names, etc).
 
Old 07-23-2016, 11:02 AM   #35
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Linux will not help to turn useless overpaid western government leaders into well-meaning hard-working servants to their people. It will not turn cudgel swinging ruffians into considerate protectors of public freedom. But that too, must be accomplished one day, and long before we can start out to save the world or whatever ...
the question wasnt "what ways linux will not help save the world", it was "what ways could linux play a role in saving the world?" :P n your response started so well too. XD ... rly thought you were going to heed the advice you started with. ^_^

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not one lousy bit because this world is going away, and their is nothing anyone can do about it.
sounds to me like dangerously defeatist confirmation-bias delusion praying to peddle a self-fulfilling prophecy. ... unless you know something those with imagination, creativity, curiosity and hope dont... ? XD

gosh. and the rest of your replies were none better. i start to see how you managed to get so high a post count with no rep. so negative, in interpretation, and output.

maybe you could do with getting some sun and/or vitaminD, and/or plugging whatever other gap in your nutrients needs plugging. s'a bad case u got there. bad case of the s***ty blues, the negative pessimism. when i get like that, [edit (unless i'm really really stuck, conflating my perception n ideas n opinions as me, and my survival brain kicks in loud to protect me from any information that seems to possibly be in contradiction to my notions (/"me"))] before i end up destroying the world (in part or full, unwittingly or intentionally, literally or virtually), i use my computer using linux & freedom respecting software, to access the web, visiting websites almost certainly also running linux and freedom respecting software, sometimes even with content about linux and freedom respecting software, to garner information from other people (whom are likely also interested in linux and freedom respecting software (and saving the world)), about how to remedy my pessimistic defeatism and ugly despair arrogance. often that's either just some fun n jokes to dispel some of my oblivious psychological funk, or some medical/dietary/lifestyle tweak that springboards me outta that to see other perspectives (and to see other levers exist)... this (for lack of more fitting term) emergent pragmatic empathy is very helpful to me for reversing escalations of absurd needless hostility, not just negative funk. ... i'd say that's a handy way the world gets saved.



ps(+waffle), loved the replies that were on topic, inc those that offered verbiage to the interpretation jiggling.
some nice ideas. esp the rpi/arduino controllers for all your stuff, and starting that process small, n building up. i have a friend who's keen on the term "intra-dependent". methinks she'd like that. taking on board your own personal responsibility path, building your way towards and past some kind of emancipating self-sufficiency breakpoint, an abundance beacon capable of inspiring/educating others for similar liberation & empowerment outcomes.
 
Old 07-24-2016, 05:36 AM   #36
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The world is not worth saving.
 
Old 07-24-2016, 06:34 AM   #37
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I don't think it is our job to save the world. The job given to us by God is to live as honestly, kindly and freely in the world as we can for as long as it lasts (or as long as we do). And Linux can help us do this in a number of ways.

1) It frees us from the tyranny of consumerism, the need to constantly spend more money on new hardware to keep up with our software upgrades. Meanwhile our old computers become toxic waste that pollutes the environment. If we can really afford to do this, it means that we have surplus money which we could be giving to give to charity instead. If we can't, that means that consumerism has led us into debt, and we need to be liberated from it.

2) We can recycle old computers by putting Linux on them and giving them to others, people who can't afford to buy new and expensive hardware.

3) Using Linux makes us part of a community that isn't ruled by money. We learn to co-operate, to help people, to contribute to community projects.

4) Linux encourages us to study, understand and have fun with our computers. It broadens our minds and prevents us from getting bored. This is particularly important for young people. We all know whose job it is to make work for idle hands!

In short I see Linux as a thoroughly Christian project.

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Old 07-24-2016, 08:05 AM   #38
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The world is not worth saving.
This must be the job given by your devil then?

Mythology doesn't turn on\off switches... even in our brains, just guardians are dictatOrs.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:09 AM   #39
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This must be the job given by your devil then?
Yawn. Pass.

Plonk.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 10:36 AM   #40
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This must be the job given by your devil then?
Yawn. Pass.

Plonk.
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I don't think it is our job to save the world. The job given to us by God is to live as honestly, kindly and freely in the world as we can for as long as it lasts (or as long as we do). And Linux can help us do this in a number of ways.

1) It frees us from the tyranny of consumerism, the need to constantly spend more money on new hardware to keep up with our software upgrades. Meanwhile our old computers become toxic waste that pollutes the environment. If we can really afford to do this, it means that we have surplus money which we could be giving to give to charity instead. If we can't, that means that consumerism has led us into debt, and we need to be liberated from it.

2) We can recycle old computers by putting Linux on them and giving them to others, people who can't afford to buy new and expensive hardware.

3) Using Linux makes us part of a community that isn't ruled by money. We learn to co-operate, to help people, to contribute to community projects.

4) Linux encourages us to study, understand and have fun with our computers. It broadens our minds and prevents us from getting bored. This is particularly important for young people. We all know whose job it is to make work for idle hands!

In short I see Linux as a thoroughly Christian project.
really below, though yours was quite clinical as well. Unless implying planets die as they do?

Use Linux or starve and go to hell! &F.edu

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Old 07-25-2016, 05:36 PM   #41
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My personal fantasy would be for solar-powered microbiotic robots running Linux that continually run through a garden / field / orchard, programmed to scan for specified dna patterns, identifying and zapping noxious weeds and vermin, thereby eliminating the need for pesticides and herbicides.
 
Old 07-25-2016, 07:13 PM   #42
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Drone scarecrows?
 
Old 09-11-2016, 07:00 PM   #43
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free software can save the world by facilitating and exemplifying a direct democratic participatory paradigm, lifting minds out of a presumption-prison of powerlessness in top-down systems as the only way. it might inspire like modalities outside of the realm of software. it might rekindle a democratic people-power spirit. it might inspire self-sufficiency, int[b]ra]-dependency, pro-active participation, right-to-know, freedom to not be subject absolutely, freedom to seek alternative vendors, freedom to haemorrhage monopolies...

sry, i intended to drive that ramble more concise-ward, to real world examples, but instead i've drilled it into "wtf is he on about". XD
 
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free software can save the world by preventing cern from blowing up, and helping them fine-tune their kit, and fix the bugs.
 
Old 06-23-2019, 11:59 PM   #45
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free software can save the world by preventing cern from blowing up, and helping them fine-tune their kit, and fix the bugs.
I don't really wish to hijack this thread but since so many see it as our Virtual Hyde Park where any crazy can spout off his most cherished and tin-foil guarded thoughts, hey this will be unbelievably conservative and stable.


So, Siljrath, I am quite curious how this explosion at Cern might possibly occur. Considering that AFAIK there are no stockpiles of explosive chemicals and not enough potentially fissionable material to light a candle, just what do you imagine can explode?
 
  


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