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Old 03-02-2010, 07:04 PM   #1021
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I've got 3D working with nouveau instead of a Nvidia binary blob on Fedora 13 (pre-alpha), and, after the last few posts, I'm wondering if I'm the only one within a 50 mile radius who's excited about this. I've only met a handful of folks who even know of Linux. But then again, I like being part of a secret society, except, for the fact that it got me trapped in this never ending thread.
You all realize that once you post you can never leave....Muahhahaha.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 07:11 PM   #1022
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mol_Bolom
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Originally Posted by smeezekitty
Please tell me WTF that says.
I HATE UNICODE!
Just for you smeezekitty, ...

<Imagine Non-European/Asiatic/African/Australian language here >
Very good Damgar.

<Imagine Non-European/Asiatic/African/Australian language here >
I want to try lfs, but I don't really have the time, or I just don't want to. I am writing Cherokee, learning asm programming, and doing things with my kids...My wife too...Whatever...

<Imagine Non-European/Asiatic/African/Australian language here >
I'm tired...But I don't want to go to bed now...I'll try to write more asm.

<Imagine Non-European/Asiatic/African/Australian language here > Happy now? ...
Heh, that reminds me of:

Quote:
Person 1: English should be the national language. These immigrants should have to learn English when they come here.
Person 2: Yeah.

Person 1: When you go to live somewhere, you learn the language they speak there. English is the language of the land.

Person 3: Excuse me, but ᎣᏏᎣ Sarah ᏓᏩᏙ. (sp? from: "osio Sarah dawado")

Person 1: What the hell was that?
Person 3: Cherokee.
From xkcd #84: "National Language"
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:02 PM   #1023
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Me, what am I doing? I'm posting.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:03 PM   #1024
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Having fun reading "C++ sucks" pages.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:11 PM   #1025
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Having fun reading "C++ sucks" pages.
Its alot funner to read python sucks pages.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 08:57 PM   #1026
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I just downloaded PC-BSD8.0 and I am going to try to install it on VirtualBox
 
Old 03-02-2010, 09:26 PM   #1027
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I've got 3D working with nouveau instead of a Nvidia binary blob on Fedora 13 (pre-alpha), and, after the last few posts, I'm wondering if I'm the only one within a 50 mile radius who's excited about this.
Looks like I'm not within 50 miles, but I'd be pretty interested in hearing about if you happen to be using more than one monitor, and if compositing works for you.
 
Old 03-02-2010, 11:14 PM   #1028
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I've got 3D working with nouveau insteaad of a Nvidia binary blob on Fedora 13 (pre-alpha)
How's performance? Solid 60/75/80/<monitor refresh rate here> FPS? Less? More (i.e. tearing)? What's glxgears have to say?

(I'm just curious because I'm using an NVIDIA "binary blob" on my Ubuntu machine, and I'm wondering if switching to nouveau would cause any loss/gain in performance... The card is a GeForce 7300GT, BTW.)

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Old 03-03-2010, 12:37 AM   #1029
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I just shut down the computer room for tonight, but tomorrow I'll do a glxgears on the F13 install and post it. I am using a dual monitor setup, there is no xorg.conf and it does direct rendering. I'm not a gamer, so the only 3D app I have running is Google Earth, which runs as well as it ever did with the binary blobs. I rushed to install a pre-alpha of F13 to check it out after I saw AdamW's blog here:
http://www.happyassassin.net/2010/02...rt-on-nouveau/
I know that Red Hat has the Nouveau guys on salary, so that, and the addition of nouveau code into the kernel (F13 comes with 2.6.33), means subsequent versions can only get better.
I'll post more tomorrow, because, like the rest of you, I'm trapped in this thread.
 
Old 03-03-2010, 12:44 AM   #1030
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@ GoinEasy -- sounds good, I'll look forward to that update.

Personally, I don't play games either, and have no use for silly wiggly windows or 4787384 FPS either; what I am interested in though, is simple transparency, and how the he11 we are ever going to be able to have working composite required for transparency, while using Xinerama (or something akin to Xinerama but not TwinView) with nVidia hardware.
I really don't care which driver I have to use, if I can someday have working transparency + Xinerama. There's been a disconnect on this subject for years, with no end in sight that I have seen

Anyhow, end of rant. See you tomorrow!

Sasha
 
Old 03-03-2010, 07:10 AM   #1031
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What about Xrandr?

@GoinEasy9

You said no xorg.conf, how is that supposed to work? I was unable to get my dual monitors to work right with xrandr without xorg.conf (to tell it to make the virtual screen bigger, and to remember the settings).
 
Old 03-03-2010, 09:55 AM   #1032
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@ MTK* -- if Xrandr can do something for me that I cannot do myself by editing xorg.conf, it's news to me. Do tell! For me, Xrandr doesn't even *work* at all when I have my Xinerama setup going, and, as is widely discussed around the internet, Xinerama also disables compositing; both of these are apparent, despite that I can look at my Xorg.logfile and see perfectly well that compositing + RandR are both allegedly enabled at startup.
If you have some magical link I should look at, for making Xinerama and Composite work together, I figure you could charge admission to it, and people would pay

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Old 03-03-2010, 10:11 AM   #1033
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AFAIK when you use Xrandr, you do not use Xinerama.

I have 2 1280x1024 monitors, the one on the left is the primary one.

I have an ATI Radeon HD card, and the xf86-video-ati driver (and it gets good 3D!).

Here's my xorg.conf:

Code:
Section "Device"
	Identifier "Default Device"
	Driver "radeon"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier "DVI-0"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier "DVI-1"
	Option "RightOf" "DVI-0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Default Screen"
        SubSection "Display"
                Virtual 2560 1024
        EndSubSection
EndSection
The only issue is that the WM and all my programs seem to think that the monitor on the right is the main one. For example, yakuake (a pop-down terminal) comes up on the wrong monitor!
 
Old 03-03-2010, 10:19 AM   #1034
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@ MTK*

Do you have working transparency? (requires working composite)

Can you drag windows from one monitor to the other?

Sasha
 
Old 03-03-2010, 10:23 AM   #1035
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