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Old 02-02-2018, 02:35 AM   #16
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They could have the immutable attribute set. Try running lsattr on them.
 
Old 02-02-2018, 05:56 AM   #17
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I am not worried about these files .. just curious

I have mentioned before my intention is not and has not been to remove them .. still do not know and can not decide .. just curious
 
Old 02-02-2018, 06:27 AM   #18
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My added content to some of them ..

The attachment is a picture of my added content to some of these files which have been empty at first
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Old 02-02-2018, 07:30 AM   #19
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Last post Not readable.

To remove some of the confusion.

Text from source of OP's first post
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bepl5YBFN05/

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What are these files in my PC? There are some files in my PC which i have not created them! They do not seem to belong to any program! Some of them could not be detected by system! In cases a message says they do not exist! Some of them could not be deleted! They originally have been empty! I inserted some text on them .. my understanding is that most possibly my system has created them .. maybe to communicate with me! Or to do something else! Since they have been empty and also because i have not seen any damage .. i think they are not harmful! But why they automatically created? And what are they! Any suggestion?!
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I know that Internet is full of malware that is why i do not connect to Internet using my PC and i have removed any auspicious file or program .. but these files .. they not only can not be removed but also seem to be harmless ..but :
What do you mean by saying: the file name changed?!
Once i changed my hard disk .. in moving old hard disk content .. a message said:
These .. files were not moved .. they do not exist! This was in case of some of them which were empty files but the same file with text inserted content were transferred! .. so which one has changed name? and how did you find about that ..?
I just took a picture using my mobile and sent the picture to : instagram!
As i know names printed on pictures can not be changed automatically!!
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What i mean is that if a program is not and is not designed to be a Virus or Worm or Trojan then it can not be harmful
What if your self-made programs are not welcomed enough by the system .. like being ignored! then this program tries to penetrate into system and change some values .. then the affected program might be considered as zombie while it is not only harmless ..but even useful
Sorry for taking your time but let me explain more:
I use Linux in my PC
I usually use one of the display managers named: kdm or xdm
It seems that kdm is more rigid because whenever i use that i do not see any zombie while in case of using xdm usually up to 4 zombies appear .. in some cases the smplayer which is a media player is converted to zombie as shown in system activity table!
At first i was too afraid about zombies but as my understandings developed i am not an more worried
My self-created programs were categorized as x-executable .. i think this is why they can be more active in xdm environment
I have not seen any harm or damage having zombies .. no loss of data or change in any of my own files observed
Now i am using kdm because still i am not sure .. this is why i asked these questions about zombies
To the OP. Post your info in the forum instead of having people running around to follow you. No one will be able to tell you anything without more info. Members have given you some info and asked questions and you have ignored them.
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I do not connect my PC to Internet! Never!
Then how do you think that you got malicious code on your machine? Has someone else been sitting at it? You've been asked for file permissions and attributes on those files.

I can't tell what you have just from 2 pics. Are those descriptions of the files or file names?
 
Old 02-02-2018, 08:54 AM   #20
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I'm not sure if there's malicious code involved or just a lot of garbage (file I/O from some buggy code) resulting in those files being created.

https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/1040026/?ref=app
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I have reinstalled my OS several times! I have done that even 3 times in a week! .. this is how i learn to do things!! About rules: I prefer to work as root! This way the system can not play with me!!
Not sure this is worth anyone's time...

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Old 02-02-2018, 11:45 AM   #21
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They look like garbage/junk data. I can think of two possibilities - data corruption on your hard disk, PENIS, or some buggy program created the files somehow. Either way, you should back up any important data right now just to be safe.
 
Old 02-02-2018, 02:24 PM   #22
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maybe an encoding issue?
honestly, a whole problem description based on one screenshot... guessing games...
+1
Bleachbit perhaps?
 
Old 02-02-2018, 05:00 PM   #23
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To answer:

Sorry for the post being not clearly visible , actually it is not important ..this text is added by myself! Asumming that somebody or a program might need my opinion!
Any way i could not take a better picture on the second try!
About not connecting to Internet:
This is related to the last few years after i had started programming ..
About creating a backup .. as i said i am not worried.. i have reinstalled the OS several times but each time home folder-partition- remained intact i just format root partition ..
I never ignore any post answer i am just limited by my mobile device capabilities as i said and by my not strong eye vision!
Also working in LQ environment is not as easy as other sites .. Google sometimes offers to make some pages as: mobile friendly .. LQ pages are not mobile friendly .. this site is also recently! Filtered! Here!
Thank you for your endurance and patience
And thank you for your answers and help
I just have to mention something:
Without enough knowledge about my works and history you will not be able to have a correct understanding so if you care make your visit longer else just ignore and forget my post
Finally as some of you know software environment the same as any other .. has complications .. i hope my posting behaviour does not add to that
Thank you all
 
Old 02-03-2018, 04:44 PM   #24
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In my computer my last installed distribution has been Mandriva2012 which is Linux .. although i confess that i have made great changes on that ..
I not only could not delete but also could not rename .. as i remember .. permission denied or returned to old name even as root!
this seems to be the key to all the confusion.
what can i say? Linux apparently isn't for those who can't leave well enough alone...
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:35 PM   #25
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If after careful examination, I have any doubt that something is not copacetic with my machine I insert boot media, reboot and rebuild without a second thought.

I already have backup files and better safe than sorry IMO.
 
Old 02-03-2018, 05:39 PM   #26
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Is this perhaps a remote filesystem exported via NFS? Root privileges do not propagate across NFS unless the filesystem is exported with the "no_root_squash" option.
 
Old 02-04-2018, 06:45 AM   #27
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Solved

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bexk0ZClLIY/
 
Old 02-04-2018, 05:27 PM   #28
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Congratulations. I couldn't even imagine any common Linux installation in which root could not do any and every thing. Furthermore I have never discovered, even in Windows PCs and files with abnormal characters that weren't garbage files. I suppose no malware writer would bring such obvious attention to anything malicious. Commonly they choose names and formats that blend right in ("No one here but us chickens") rather than advertise they are in fact "foxes".

Anyway glad your system is cleaner now and worries relieved, at least for now. It would be wise to get a new distro since the last date of Mandriva was 7 years ago, eons in PC software. While I am one to keep older things around as long as is practical and have a few old machines lying around with older systems, none is more than 5 years old and only very rarely ever used anymore. If there is some application no longer available on newer systems, most often the /opt directory can be used to satisfy it's needs without creating any problems for the newer stuff.
 
Old 02-05-2018, 08:01 AM   #29
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In recent releases of Linux (and, OS/X), the once-universal powers of root are now limited.

In the OS/X world you must manually boot into single-user mode and issue commands which cannot be automated, in order to manipulate certain files. Malware that somehow finds itself running as root can no longer do certain things. Subsequent releases have only enhanced these protections.

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Old 02-05-2018, 09:52 AM   #30
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I can't speak for OS/X but being a curious individual who tries distros out a lot (but remains a solid Slackware user/advocate) I can confirm what sundialsvcs says above is so.... and that I'm only more a confirmed Slacker than ever. If, OTOH, anyone actually wants to become a dumbed-down programmed automaton it's easy. Just opt in for any convenience, any manufactured sense of security and safety (surely you're not going to let your kid ride a Hot Wheels without a helmet, knee pads, elbow pads and bi-directional rollbars are you?) and by all means opt out of any risk of failure... don't ever ever make a mistake. You don't need backups, documentation, smart practices and all that useless individual power because WE will do it all for you. Never worry ever again. Just go along for the ride. It's like falling off a log.

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