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Old 06-25-2019, 02:05 PM   #1
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What are peoples opinion(s) about this UAV bandwagon?


Recently a lot of articles and other information material like videos on youtube are about these RC flying vehicles drones. Like in this article:
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UAVs are tackling everything from disease control to vacuuming up ocean waste to delivering pizza, and more.
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Drone technology has been used by defense organizations and tech-savvy consumers for quite some time. However, the benefits of this technology extends well beyond just these sectors.

With the rising accessibility of drones, many of the most dangerous and high-paying jobs within the commercial sector are ripe for displacement by drone technology. The use cases for safe, cost-effective solutions range from data collection to delivery. And as autonomy and collision-avoidance technologies improve, so too will drones’ ability to perform increasingly complex tasks.

According to forecasts, the emerging global market for business services using drones is valued at over $127B. As more companies look to capitalize on these commercial opportunities, investment into the drone space continues to grow.

A drone or a UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) typically refers to a pilotless aircraft that operates through a combination of technologies, including computer vision, artificial intelligence, object avoidance tech, and others. But drones can also be ground or sea vehicles that operate autonomously.

Below, check out the ways companies are harnessing drone technology for commercial purposes across industries.
After reading such articles about how they can help planet i wonder how it actually will turn out if implemented. Also how it affects linux world.
 
Old 06-25-2019, 05:32 PM   #2
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Concerning how Linux can help, benefit, or be useful in the drone industry, I would like to mention on item that I noticed in the article and afterwards give my thoughts.

In the article it had a photo of a soldier doing two things:

(1) Launching a small drone next to the corner of a building.
(2) In the soldiers hand there was a small hand-held, apparently, a computer.

I would like to bring out two items concerning how Linux OS systems can help in this situation and a conclusion.

(1) Being in a combat situation, the drone, and the OS, must not be able to be controlled by the enemy, or rendered inoperable due to electronic interference. The soldier operating the drone must be able to fully control the operation, and the desired optic information, from the drone. Therefore, a Linux OS is probably more secure from hacking by an enemy than a Windows OS.

(2) It would benefit Linux OS, Canonical, if they could develop a secure software system developed just for military operations such as the small drone for an individual soldier in an combat environment.

Conclusion.

Furthermore, once the arms industry can see a viable Linux, Ubuntu, OS in a combat scenario, it would benefit the perception of Linux OS's dramatically in all areas; both in the military and the commercial realm.
 
Old 06-25-2019, 08:24 PM   #3
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In general I think that automation could help humankind. A fleet of gardener robots might one day tend to a field of food. Might control pests and weeds or such.

On the other hand it's way to easy to build any machine that could harm humans. Look at cars.

Kind of the pandora's box issue.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 02:23 AM   #4
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{...}On the other hand it's way to easy to build any machine that could harm humans. Look at cars.{...}
And how does cars harm humans? Sunday drivers and miscommunication of driver intentions and accident chain do it not cars. But drones are pretty harmless and if not they are not sudden and are expected cause they make noise before approaching. Even small budget drones like DJI Tello are noisy once launched. And if humans not want robotics that harm them then they need to not give robotics option to harm them either by giving them no true AI with free will or limiting their hardware capabilities. Humans also are inside their body prison every day unable to do anything much without getting karma.

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Old 06-26-2019, 02:38 AM   #5
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And how does cars harm humans? Sunday drivers and miscommunication of driver intentions and accident chain do it not cars. But drones are pretty harmless and if not they are not sudden and are expected cause they make noise before approaching. Even small budget drones like DJI Tello are noisy once launched. And if humans not want robotics that harm them then they need to not give robotics option to harm them either by giving them no true AI with free will or limiting their hardware capabilities. Humans also are inside their body prison every day unable to do anything much without getting karma.
Oh yes. AI is going to save us all. /s
 
Old 06-26-2019, 05:14 AM   #6
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......& when the robots have produced all this food, (which is a good use of technology), who will pay for it, as people will no longer need to be employed, & therefore have no money to buy it........

Be careful of what you wish for, computers were meant to take away the menial tasks from humans, but they have already taken over a lot of jobs, & usually the more technical ones, leaving the humans to do the menial tasks, as before, only less of them.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 08:12 AM   #7
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The problem with drones (and cars) is that humans control them and for all of our intelligence, some humans are just plain meat-bags. People fly drones into aircraft airspace and can take out an airliner. They can strike any moving vehicle, including cars. Cars are piloted by people that have no business driving because they are on drugs or are drunk, or are using their cell phone.

Robotic tech (and cars) are great, but we humans are certainly not perfect...
 
Old 06-26-2019, 11:31 AM   #8
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computers were meant to take away the menial tasks from humans
No, they were meant to make complex calculations much faster than humans.
I suspect you mean automation - but I agree, once automation got married to computers things started looking really bleak for many meat bags holding jobs, menial or not.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 12:46 PM   #9
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I know that drones are used in agriculture today and actually know a pilot who flies them. You can use thermal imagery to check for plant stress.

Pollination drones are interesting and if we continue to lose our bee population and other pollinators our global food source could be in jeopardy.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 03:45 PM   #10
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All technological advancements merely increase convenience and/or power. They are morally neutral. It's the people who control technology that decide the moral questions of how they are used or not. Because of this, and as has been noted by many including Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking regarding how language created a parallel form of Evolution in that knowledge can be handed down from one generation to not only the next generation but ALL subsequent generations. However the implications of that are HUGE. Our bodies evolve over many millennia and that includes our most basic "fight or flight" urges as well as such things as devotion to leaders and causes, but our minds evolve at fantastic rates due to communication.

Stop and realize that the very first powered heavier than aircraft took off in 1903 and flew 120 feet in 3 1/2 seconds. Just 66 years later, less than one human lifetime, men landed 250,000 miles away on our Moon. Talk about progress! The computers used in Apollo had vastly less power than a modern wristwatch, let alone a calculator, and smartphones have upped that ante by many orders of magnitude. One of the major concerns of thinkers driving them to seek extraterrestrial civilizations is to be able to ask, "How did you do it? How did you survive the ability to destroy yourselves?"

This situation assumes that any intelligent beings evolved from lower lifeforms and also has encoded in early survival traits that worked wonders early on but became extremely hazardous once techological development began and especially amped up by language. The need to modify if not discard urges, reactions and points of view that were beneficial to Hunter-Gatherers is one valid reason AI might indeed save humanity.... or eclipse, or destroy it. Unless we blow ourselves back into the Stone Age by one wrong move or another before we outgrow such urges, AI and the integration of humans and technology is already happening and probably a good thing. I, for one, at my age, would be all to grateful to become Bionic and maybe in the process outgrow many "juvenile" hormonal responses.
 
Old 06-26-2019, 08:04 PM   #11
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I have to point out that a car is a machine. It's misuse kills thousands and thousands. There is little difference in the way a tool is used be in a club or a supercomputer or a flying lawnmower.
 
Old 06-27-2019, 01:07 AM   #12
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All technological advancements (...) are morally neutral.
That depends entirely on your morals.
I would say no, they're not.
You can't just postulate that some aspect of life, evolution and everything is simply outside of any given moral construct. Well you can, but that's just, like, your opinion.

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Old 06-27-2019, 01:24 AM   #13
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Oh yes. AI is going to save us all. /s
Just like those Boston Dynamic's Dogs!
 
Old 06-27-2019, 09:10 AM   #14
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(1) Being in a combat situation, the drone, and the OS, must not be able to be controlled by the enemy
Have you watched Cowboy Bebop?
 
Old 06-27-2019, 01:20 PM   #15
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Oh yes. AI is going to save us all. /s
If done correctly then it will save us all..otherwise will help us all. There are no tragic stories in long run only short term misunderstandings. This is what i am writing but none cares to read. Either something needs happen now or later or happens or happened.
 
  


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