"Legal" is what the public demands it to be. As the US Supreme Court Justice, Judge Learned Hand, observed, laws and taxes are imposed.

• Yesterday, as I was driving my parent's new (big 2015 GMC) car to and from a shop, it was answering my Dad's phone calls, even though his phone wasn't in the car and mine (of course) has Bluetooth turned off. His car, obviously, had a phone built-in to it, and had somehow "absorbed" the information from Dad's SIM card when he thought that he was merely "linking" the device to his car.
• I also discovered that it takes three separate steps to change channels on the XM radio, but only one easy click (the first choice offered!) to "tag a song." So, obviously, Dad's car is on the Internet, too.
• I noticed that the small black dome which is supposed to contain a sunlight sensor also contains a small lens pointing directly at the driver. I found other lenses concealed elsewhere in the car to show people in the back seat.

So, what Dad is actually driving around is something that can eavesdrop on every word spoken in the car, can film the occupants, can map exactly where he is on Planet Earth at all times, and no-doubt is transmitting that "marketing data" to someone, somewhere. All without his knowledge or consent, nor mine.

There are millions of GMC cars just like that, out there on the road.

That "marketing data" is probably sitting right now in a large L-1 Visa company hired by GMC to do its "market research," where tens of thousands of people who live a very short airplane ride from Iraq are synchronizing the data with their "cloud data-center" which might be in Iraq, or in a nearby but equally friendly-to-them country that won't get bombed as often. The data is "mined" to synchronize with information gathered from computer, from cell phone GPSes, from unprotected email messages, from sensors hidden in places where you wouldn't imagine sensors could be hid. And this data, multiple petabytes of it, complete lays naked to them the citizens of a nation that still bombs their nation every night.

But, when will the laws change, meaningfully? Only after "it" happens. And by then it will be too late, because data like this doesn't lose its value as a weapon of war.

Until then, "well, there's lots of money in 'it'." Plenty, plenty of money to share with people who have the power to say "aye" and "nay" at the right times . . .

"What fools these Mortals be!" -- Puck

^ people just have to be made aware of this.
if they still say "i don't care" afterwards, ok, but first i'd like to make sure that they truly understand what they don't care about.


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oh, this forum has no "did you find this post helpful: Yes" button - so, lacking that, thanks again to randicus dracus albus (i hope i spelled that right) for explaining tivoism & what a tivo is.

you can still click on the scales on the left hand side i beleive

Windows 10 can disable pirated software or "unauthorized" hardware

Not that I support software piracy, but it isn't the OSes job to be the police. Not to mention I don't want MS having the ability to arbitrarily disable stuff they don't like.
Also trying to push people into having a Microsoft account to use an OS is insanity

It is an additional good reason to use LINUX !!
Tell your friends that LINUX is opensource, there are many nice softwares and they can still continue to use WIN32 apps with WINE !

There is OpenOffice, which is free (compared to office). If they want something nice and beautiful, use TeX, IeX (Clitex), Latex, ...

And yet millions of gamers after paying £100's for an xbox then go on to pay microsoft a yearly fee to join xbox live just so they can uncripple their xbox that they have already paid for! and then pay software houses even more to play the rest of the game that they have just forked out £50 for, maddness!

This is to quote what it says.

Wow! Microsoft fibbing, who woulda thought it!

It is not fibbing. They emphasise the choice, but do not mention details about how the choice is limited. That is called marketing. It is misleading marketing, but governments allow it.

Wow...

Hi...

In part, yes, but Linux has a ways to go before I consider it a seamless alternative to Windows. Here is one example of what I mean. I recommended it only to others only under a certain criteria.

Regards...

In the interests of balance:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/no-micr...th-windows-10/

I don't understand this at all. What M$ did is, simply, put in words what has been going on for decades. I think Apple were the first to mention taking personal data into account in their T's and C's and Google have mentioned it also.
This is the normal way that Windows has worked for decades -- why is anybody now boycotting Windows 10 because M$ have spelled what has been going on for years?

From the other camp, point of view.

AFTERMARKET BROWSER=Firefox 40. Windows 10 was causing Firefox to stutter and it was fixed with

Real time Windows 10 issues brought to you from the Mexican border.

Oh, in case you did not know