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Old 11-18-2015, 01:34 AM   #31
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Unfortunately every person has the right to determine just who/what jerks their knees enough to vote! It would be real nice if the best of our society became our leaders instead of the slimiest " for sale " soul-less humans that are always put before us!!
 
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Solution?

So cousinlucky: does this mean you are running for office to offer a 'cleaner' ticket?
 
Old 11-18-2015, 02:29 PM   #33
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So cousinlucky: does this mean you are running for office to offer a 'cleaner' ticket?
Now that's funny!! I'm 71 years old and disabled. If anything, running for any public office would get me killed real quickly!! I do not believe in coddling criminals; if you do not know how to act properly then you need to be recycled to the depths of the ocean. If you raise your children to be criminals; then you should do the jail time with them!!

There are a whole host of things, agencies, and policies that I would get rid of ASAP!! Women would never vote for me because I would get rid of " Welfare Aid to Dependent Children "!! Society should not be paying for 18 years because a woman gets herself pregnant; it's her choice let her pay for it. My list is long!!

There is no way men like me would ever be welcome to any government that is full of unethical human beings!!

"They [conformists] think society wiser than their soul, and know not that one soul, and their soul, is wiser than the whole world...Society everywhere is in conspiracy against the manhood of every one of its members....Whoso would be a man, must be a nonconformist.... Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
 
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that would put the pain in campain.

It is fine to be 71 (or any age), and handicaps are relative, but the rest is somewhat of a blocker. At least you would be fair, offending nearly everyone equally. ;-)

I would as well, but for totally different reasons.
 
Old 11-19-2015, 12:35 PM   #35
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I think the majority of humans rule because there are seven billion of us . like animals... what I see is your votes did nothing for anybody but ourselves! (No $ign$ and didn't use ours*l*ves. \)
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Old 11-19-2015, 01:56 PM   #36
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Very few humans are in complete control of themselves and their own faults!! How are we to find and follow such rare leaders??-Cousin Lucky

Ambition, impatience, and hurry are often admirable in individuals; but they are pernicious if they guide the power of coercion and if improvement depends on those who, when authority is conferred on them, assume that in their authority lies superior wisdom and thus the right to impose their beliefs on others. F.A. Hayek, The Constitution of Liberty [1960]
 
Old 11-20-2015, 12:20 PM   #37
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I've probably never voted for the same reasons I won't watch most "new$..." not a rubbernecker and understand we are all dumb at any given point. When I feel I have failed somehow at teaching my nephews (eg no patients) I tell them, they say I'm a grate teacher but still we learn. Over the years have noticed most people with good grades are just tools, they do what their told and learn "our" pseudo knowledge but not much more... only a tool would want to be in charge. Whoever becomes a lawyer\cop\* more to change the world than making money?
 
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Very few humans with good decent hearts and minds can remain in politics for long because politics is, without any doubt, humanities very dirtiest business!!
 
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But you SHOULD have voted!

True, and that is the best reason to stay on top of it. If we do not work continuously to make it more honest, clean, and ethical it would quickly be totally hopeless. Your vote MATTERS! Even if your votes are for the losing candidate or bill, that fact that you made the effort is noticed in the numbers. Pure numbers have launched programs and changed the direction of the country despite not being adequate for an absolute majority. No one with brains is going to ignore 49% of the voters in the nation.
 
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Again opinions all around, no facts... maybe if we all close our eyes and cover our ears!

No.

People are idiots... you want number$ look globally (or at why capitalism exists and\or supposedly!) It's like security there is always a way in... so why be the * at the gate or the * braking in?

I vote that we teach and feed everyone!
 
Old 11-21-2015, 04:31 AM   #41
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Some
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so we have our own systems... what a waste.
 
Old 11-21-2015, 02:33 PM   #42
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True, and that is the best reason to stay on top of it. If we do not work continuously to make it more honest, clean, and ethical it would quickly be totally hopeless. Your vote MATTERS! Even if your votes are for the losing candidate or bill, that fact that you made the effort is noticed in the numbers. Pure numbers have launched programs and changed the direction of the country despite not being adequate for an absolute majority. No one with brains is going to ignore 49 of the voters in the nation.
Maybe your vote matters but mine certainly didn't. My one experience voting in a US presidential election was in 1964. I had no interest in participating in any sort of war so I paid attention to what the candidates (Lyndon Johnson & Barry Goldwater) had to say on the matter. Goldwater was decidedly pro-war even favouring "the use of nuclear weapons in Vietnam if necessary". On the other hand, Johnson stated that he would not send "American boys nine or ten thousand miles from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." So, being young and stupid, I actually voted for Johnson. Silly me. We all know how that turned out. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Now what was the name of that song that Pete Townsend wrote? So yes, maybe your vote mattered but my vote certainly didn't.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:33 PM   #43
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Lightbulb Here's a fact, voting for people is the same as people have ruled peoples since the start...

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Old 11-22-2015, 06:53 AM   #44
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In the future Americans might have to choose between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton as the next President of these United States!! In my mind that is not a lesser of two evils decision; that is an everyone ( all of humanity ) loses no matter who wins!!
 
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The word "humanity" needs to evolve (hard to do with no real separations of church and state(!) another reason I'll never vote for changing minds (pun in 10 did)) like I put in your thread:
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... so-many paths to take, only making one will work....
finding ones self is strongest from teen years to around 25-28 when the brain stops developing but not thought and obliviously not hard to forget 1,000's of years of stupidity!

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