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Old 09-01-2019, 09:22 PM   #1
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Vance Packard warned of advertisers using too much of our personal information in 1964


Quote:
'In a 1964 essay called "The Naked Society", Packard
criticized advertisers' unfettered use of private information to
create marketing schemes. He compared a recent Great Society
initiative by then-president Lyndon B. Johnson, the National Data
Bank, to the use of information by advertisers and argued for
increased data privacy measures to ensure that information did not
find its way into the wrong hands. The essay led Congress to create
the Special Subcommittee on the Invasion of Privacy and inspired
privacy advocates such Neil Gallagher and Sam Ervin to fight Johnson's
flagrant disregard for consumer privacy.'
from Wikipedia's entry on Vance Packard. I read his Hidden
Persuaders
back then, but missed this essay.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 09:27 PM   #2
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And the WWW is the new "vast wasteland."

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Old 09-02-2019, 01:05 AM   #3
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^ & ^^
I have noticed many times that the (non-technical) problems we encounter online nowadays, are nothing new. It all already existed before the www.
Copyright laws, trolling, data mining, you name it.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 06:13 AM   #4
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And scams. Lottery scams used to be entirely postal.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 06:32 AM   #5
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The Internet is the single best "vehicle" to not only get people's data, but to distribute it. Everyone from the government, right down to the average person was blind to the risks, and complacent from the start. And yet people still give their info away very easily today - it's called the "digital age". In other words: people post their thoughts online, rather than sharing them privately. Because the Internet is far more accessible than it's ever been, and therefore "privacy" has almost gone out the window. You could also call it "convenience", because even if you don't have your own Internet connection, you can in many cases get online through public wifi and such. And all from the palm of your hand...

I tried to connect to Westfield shopping center's free wifi, guess what? They wanted my name and email address. I said the hell with that and went to the public library instead, only had to agree to their Terms & Conditions to connect...
 
Old 09-02-2019, 06:59 AM   #6
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I tried to connect to Westfield shopping center's free wifi, guess what? They wanted my name and email address. I said the hell with that and went to the public library instead, only had to agree to their Terms & Conditions to connect...
There's no such thing as a free lunch! And if you can't see what product is being sold, you're the product.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 07:09 AM   #7
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Yep, certainly not at Westfield shopping center, that's for sure!

It reminds of something else, and while I don't remember what shop I was at; I remember buying something (can't remember what it was) and the guy behind the counter said; do you want to sign up for some "loyalty program" (again, don't remember what it was called)? And I remember saying; what benefit do I get if I sign up? Oh, you really don't get any benefit (or something to that effect). And I remember saying; so why am I going to give you my information then ?? He didn't have an answer for that...

Needless to say, they didn't get my info.
 
Old 09-02-2019, 08:51 PM   #8
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And the other side of the coin is that far too many persons believe whatever they read on a screen, when they wouldn't believe the same thing if they read it on stone tablets personally handed to them by Moses himself.
 
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And the WWW is the new "vast wasteland."
I haven't heard the Web called a wasteland. Mad had a cartoon depicting portly Newt, captioned 'vast waist land'. His daughter Nell is an activist for better corporate governance.
 
  


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