USA Today - 60% of U.S. voters say they won't try to get a coronavirus vaccine as soon as it becomes available and 25% say NEVER
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“You probably need between 70 and 80% of the population to get immune in order to really control COVID," he said. "And when I say immune, I mean both get the vaccine and the vaccine worked for them."
The USA TODAY/Suffolk poll found that about two-thirds of the 1,000 voters surveyed – 67% – would either not take the vaccine until others have tried it (44%) or not take it at all (23%)
The other third of respondents were split between those who said they would take the vaccine as soon as it's available (27%) or those who were undecided (6%). Those 75 and older were by far the likeliest to say they will get the vaccine right away.
Those numbers :
* 27% Will take immediately
* 44% Will take after others have tried
* 23% Will not take at all
* 6% Undecided
So a more optimistic way of framing it would be to say that only 23% of the 1000 people surveyed say they wont take a vaccine.
Yes, they did that in 1980 with the swine flu. There were live viri in the vaccine, people caught swine flu from the vaccine and died from it. Older people as I recall.
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Poll results have to be taken with a grain of salt.
The results can be twisted in one direction or the other, depnnding on how the quesitons are worded and who is being polled.
In many, if not most, cases polls are being used to sway public opinion, not measure public opinion.
If you want to "report" most people polled favor one political party's view on a topic, you make sure the majority of the people polled are members of that party. Oh, didn't they mention that in the news story? No they didn't.
One should read the fine print, i.e., who conducted the poll, who commissioned the poll and who were polled.
OTOH, if the questions are completely neutual and the people polled are actually a valid cross section of the population, then the polls can be accurate. Sadly, that rarely happens anymore. The news media is,
as I said, using polls to create "news," not report real "news."
Last edited by cwizardone; 09-04-2020 at 05:27 PM.
Reason: Typo.
You changed the most important word. I think you did it on purpose. I will never take you out of my ignore list.
Honestly confused why you think "a vaccine" vs "the vaccine" is important here? The article uses both phrases interchangeably.
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Two-thirds of U.S. voters say they won't try to get a coronavirus vaccine [...]
The USA TODAY/Suffolk poll found that about two-thirds of the 1,000 voters surveyed – 67% – would either not take the vaccine until others have tried it (44%) or not take it at all (23%)
They are using various vaccines all over the world right now. An article said a lot of educated people with access to various items are making home made cures already.
Will covid-19 ever go away even if everyone gets a good vaccine?? Who knows.
My 91 year old mother has never taken any shots for any disease and claims to never get sick. I've never seen her sick... who knows. Maybe people have a right to decide.
23% Will not take at all
44% Will take after others have tried
The CDC now knows that of all people in the US who died from covid, 94% where not healthy to start with and had other comorbidity factors. 6% were healthy. I am not suggesting that their lives didn't matter. If they weren't sick to start with, 94% would not have died. That does not mean that covid didn't kill them, they could have had high blood pressure and diabetes and lived with it for more years.
Influenza kills people like that, which are weaker and sicker to start with.
What's the point? The average healthy person is not dropping dead with covid. Entire economies were almost destroyed over this. It's going to take years to recover. I would like to see them get the vaccine right, and not kill people with the vaccine, like they did in 1980. Just because your M.D. says so, does not automatically make it so.
I'm old enough to remember images on my television of children in iron lungs due to polio (once you have seen them, you cannot unsee them). Then along came the Salk and Sabin vaccines, and those images, and polio, soon faded away.
I also remember my mother and father confined to bed with mumps, which is a much more serious disease for adults than for children. I wish they had had the benefit of a mumps vaccine, but they did not. Fortunately, they recovered, but it was far more serious than I--I had not even started school at the time--realized.
Vaccines work. They are not perfect, but they do tremendously more good than harm.
At the same time, given that here in the U. S., COVID-19 seems to have been seized on by some as a political wedge issue, rather than a health care issue, I plan to be cautious about seeking vaccination. I want any vaccine I take to be thoroughly vetted by trustworthy sources.
That reminds me, I need to get my flu shot . . . .
Without seeing the article I assume we are talking about treatments versus a cure since there is none. Since most people only experience a mild illness the "cure" is actually relieving symptoms just like the flu.
It depends on how long the vaccine lasts. Just like the flu I don't think it will ever go away but in a similar fashion a flu shot protects you from transmitting the disease to other people and gives us that herd immunity. With the increasingly number of people that don't trust vaccines (I have some in my family...) and distrust that it may not be a safe as others being fast tracked ( warp speed ) it may be several years if ever.
Only yesterday I heard on the news that the Trump administration is intent on pushing out "The" vaccine before the election at all cost.
That would make me skeptical, too.
Clearly the poll's timing is opportune.
Hey, is this the first in a row of long pre- mid- and post- US election political discussions?
It was getting a bit quiet on that front here on LQ!
Last edited by ondoho; 09-05-2020 at 07:14 AM.
Reason: added "political"
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