Two UK ambulance services are still using Windows XP
This is according to the New Scientist. The authorities concerned are North East and Yorkshire. Of course XP is no longer supported and no longer gets any security updates. It is vulnerable to malware like wannacry.
The devices that are running XP are actually supplied by a company called Terrafix; basically they do gps work, but they also provide access to the location of patients, so there are privacy issues too. |
Some corporations and governments are paying mickeysoft beaucoup bucks a year to provided continued support for Xp. Perhaps, this company is one of them? Just a thought.
Of course, by now, some of them may have upgraded to windows 7. :D |
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As for XP, which hasn't been supported for more than 5 years, well you can bet that any version still being used commercially is minimal and highly customised and nothing at all like the consumer version, sharing not much more than the name. It would certainly not be running any services which are vulnerable to well-known attacks. |
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The main problem with Windows 8 was that stupid interface, which was a symptom of the phenomenally wrong-headed "convergence" notion that everyone would want to have the same interface design on every device. |
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I hope eventually they will share the source at least for UI part of XP, so that it can be used on modern systems.
Because their tablet type of UI is a disaster on desktop, I think it was called METRO or something. Possibly the worst UI I have ever seen, and I did see a lot. |
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Regarding the Original Post, there are many "embedded" systems that were using XP as a core, from memory a LOT of bank ATMs were still on XP when it was near EOL. As for paying MS for continued extended support, depending on the size of the "estate" there's a break-point where it's more economical to do this rather than have a major project / capital expense to upgrade hardware and software. Run XP machines on a segregated network, maybe even with full physical segregation, with no internet connectivity, and disable any removable media and you can have a pretty secure setup. |
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Maybe they've got source, maybe not, but I'm pretty sure they did skins on top of toolkit so it would still be a same resource hungry aero UI underneath. And one can't simply setup a GTK1 on top of most recent kernel, while most linux distributions can do this easily. The thing with organizations like this ambulance example, is they recieve the source which they can audit.. so they can basically keep using old hardware until hardware malfunction. Not the home users though, they're expected to upgrade hardware because, you've guessed it, the brand new and exciting interface requires it. And this is really the core of the issue, it's not that the new kernel doesn't run on these old buckets of bolts, it runs just fine, it's the rest of the system that's just not backwards compatible. Organizations know that, and it's way cheaper for them too keep the old gear until it breaks. |
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As with anything else, including Linux distributions, the "out of the box" desktop "experience" is not going to suit everyone. The same with a new Linux user who starts with something like Ubuntu and just presumes that gnome is the "Linux UI" and either loves it or hates it. Quote:
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It wasn't too long ago that I was in a local bistro when the owner walked in, noticed someone had unplugged the jukebox and plugged it back in. It was one of those Internet connected jukeboxes, i.e., it doesn't have any music installed, it goes out via the Internet to the company providing the service, finds what was requested, and streams it. I happened to look over towards the jukebox as it was plugged in and was very surprised, shocked actually, to see the Xp logo on the screen for several seconds as it booted up. |
Last I knew, you could change a registry setting in XP and you'd still get the occasional security update because XP is still in use as a POS system. (That's point of sale - not the other one!)
Huh... I decided to check and I'm wrong - it just ended at the end 2019. https://www.crn.com/news/security/30...or-updates.htm I'll still include/submit this so that folks can see it. You could conceivably still grab the existent updates, but you're on your own as of 2020. |
After the end of mainstream support for XP / Server 2003, support did not end entirely, but migrated to "Custom Support". i.e. paid support for organisations large enough to afford it.
The paradox is that while upgrading an OS seems like a great idea. Unsupported OS have unpatched vulnerabilities, etc, but new OS come with bugs. Bugs which could put you out of business. Sometimes going to your customers and saying "it's Windows 10's fault" doesn't work - especially as you had a working solution before, regardless of how obsolete it may have seemed. |
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Anyhow, Windows is Windows... I don't understand why you'd want to use XP or 7 anyway. They're both less capable than 10, and basically the same sh_t underneath. Quote:
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OTOH, the hp drivers for windows that came with the scanner produce perfect scans the first time and every time. So, I have Xp running in VirtualBox for just that purpose. Under the heading of, "while I think about it," some banks ran their ATMs on OS/2 for years, even long after IBM abandoned the project. |
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